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Dr. Galaga
09-17-2006, 09:29 PM
As I was enjoying some chips and salsa at the Mexican restaurant by me, I kept staring at my bottle of Coke. "It sure looks smaller" I thought. Then I noticed, it is in a non-returnable bottle! Are these 12 oz. bottles new, or just new to my area?
The sticker says that it was bottled by, "Bebidas Mundiales, S.A. de C.V., Monterrey, N.L. C.P. 64290"

http://home.comcast.net/~dr.galaga/images/mexcoke.jpg
Non-returnable on the left and returnable on the right.

rackitup
09-17-2006, 09:42 PM
In LA Coke is now importing the "non retornable" bottle themselves.

In Vegas I saw a simmilar size bottle with a plastic screw on cap that looks like a 20 oz.plastic bottle 2, I heard Coke is bringing it over from Mexico themselves.

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-17-2006, 11:00 PM
Wow! I didn't knew about those 12 oz. non-returnable bottles... and now that you put it along a returnable bottle, the bottle from the left looks thinner and the bottleneck looks different....

Does that bottle from the left says "No Retornable"?

[ 09-17-2006, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: Ramón Cokeaholic ]

Dr. Galaga
09-18-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Ramón Cokeaholic:
Does that bottle from the left says "No Retornable"? Yep! At first I thought that they gave me a 10 oz. returnable bottle!

http://home.comcast.net/~dr.galaga/images/mexcoke2.jpg

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-18-2006, 08:42 PM
WOW! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I can't believe it!!!

the saint
09-19-2006, 06:27 PM
The glass is much thinner because it doesn't have to make it back to the bottling plant. It goes one way on the truck bouncing around. the bottle more than likely is narrower also, resulting in the additional 2 ounces.

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-19-2006, 06:53 PM
That bottle it's amazing!

I'm not sure, but I think that Embotelladoras ARCA (the bottling company owner of Bebidas Mundiales, S.A.) decided to release that bottles because they were losing a lot of returnable bottles in U.S., and that returnable bottles cost money too, so maybe they released the Non-returnable 355ml bottles in order to send them to U.S. and mantain more returnable glass bottles here in Mexico.

doug1885
09-20-2006, 05:33 PM
What's the sweetener? (Either by taste, or by the label :)). At one point they were using cane sugar, weren't they?

-Doug

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-20-2006, 05:55 PM
Yes, it has cane sugar...

Dr. Galaga
09-20-2006, 07:15 PM
Yep, still sugar.

jmyjunk
09-20-2006, 07:25 PM
Mexican Coke is fantastic. There seems to be a market for it, as of and on I have been finding it at a nearby wal-mart fo 88c a bottle.

When, oh when, will Coke here in the states relize that we want cane sugar. HFCS is not the real thing.

Ben
09-23-2006, 06:50 PM
I found identical bottles today in Saginaw, MI

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-23-2006, 08:10 PM
I'm drinking right now a 600 ml bottle of Coke along with a bag of Doritos Green Sauce and a bag of Doritos Nacho

[ 09-23-2006, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: Ramón Cokeaholic ]

Mr Zabe
09-23-2006, 08:23 PM
Hey pass over the Doritos Nacho,if you please. LOL
YUM....sounds like a real tasty snack. smile.gif

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Sure, only if you pass over a bag of Doritos Cooler Ranch... OMG those Doritos taste sooo good!

and the Doritos bag design from U.S. is great!, completely better than the one from here, the Mexican Doritos bag design really sucks

No Soda
09-28-2006, 11:24 PM
I like the idea of the no retornable bottles being used in the US....I liked being able to add several Mexican bottles to my collection, but it always breaks my heart to think most of the Mexican bottles that come to the US end up in the trash.

Here's a 500 mL no retornable Mexican Coke bottle a friend brought me from Cancun a few years ago. The bottler is Embotelladora del Caribe in Cancun.


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/nosoda/mex-1.jpg

[ 09-28-2006, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: No Soda ]

Ram0n C0keah0lic
09-29-2006, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by No Soda:
I like the idea of the no retornable bottles being used in the US....I liked being able to add several Mexican bottles to my collection, but it always breaks my heart to think most of the Mexican bottles that come to the US end up in the trash.

Here's a 500 mL no retornable Mexican Coke bottle a friend brought me from Cancun a few years ago. The bottler is Embotelladora del Caribe in Cancun.


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/nosoda/mex-1.jpg That bottle is available in few cities of Mexico, like Cancun, Guadalajara, Durango and Torreon... we used to have that bottle here, but when the 600 ml plastic bottle came out, the 500 ml bottle dissappeared... but IMO I prefer the 600 ml plastic bottle... it looks better and it has 100 ml more... :D

[ 09-29-2006, 12:53 AM: Message edited by: Ramón Cokeaholic ]

Ben
09-29-2006, 01:07 PM
Bah!

Part of the reason us Americans are so fascinated by these Mexican Cokes is their glass packaging. I think it being in glass is as big a factor as it having cane sugar for it's popularity here!


Ibut IMO I prefer the 600 ml plastic bottle... it looks better and it has 100 ml more... :D [/QUOTE]

Mr Zabe
09-29-2006, 01:48 PM
I can only speak for myself. The product quality inside the container way out weighs the aesthetics of the container. Good old pre-HFCS Coke will always be the gold standard for my A-List soda pops.

Many moons again during my stay in Israel(25+ years ago)drinking cold cane Cokes was like a true Holy experience for me. smile.gif

[ 09-29-2006, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

Ben
09-30-2006, 08:25 AM
I would argue though that a contributing factor to the taste is the glass bottle. You don't have plastic or aluminum aftertaste.

Ram0n C0keah0lic
10-22-2006, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by No Soda:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/nosoda/mex-1.jpg Today I went to San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, and I bought three 500 ml glass bottles of Coke like that one, along with two 24 oz. bottles of Coke and one 600 ml bottle of Sprite Zero that is not available here where I live...

No Soda
10-22-2006, 05:36 PM
That Mexican Coke in the 500mL bottle was quite delicious. Like I said before, I'd like to see them here so the refillable Mexican bottles don't end up in the trash...

Before Coke adopted the 20-oz plastic bottle across the US in the mid 1990's, these non-returnable 16-oz bottles were available in the New York/New England area. These were only around from 1994 to 1996. I wish I'd saved more...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/nosoda/coke-1.jpg

Ram0n C0keah0lic
10-23-2006, 01:23 AM
Great bottle! thanks for the pic!

zajacste
03-15-2007, 05:03 PM
I found identical bottles today in Saginaw, MI


Where in Saginaw you found the non-returnables? I was in Saginaw last week and found returnable coke and pepsi at marias on Shattuck. They didn't have anything at Guerra Grocery, but they guy there said when they do get it, it sells out in no time.

-Steve

BetterWithCoke
03-15-2007, 10:33 PM
As others have said, this is a good thing to see simply because we don't want to drive Mexican bottlers to go the completely non-returnable route. Whenever I'd purchase Coke from Mexico in glass bottles, I'd feel slightly guilty at having to dispose of it. Leaving behind the good old returnable 6 1/2 oz bottle and other returnable glass packaging in the States was almost tragic.

Many international markets still enjoy the economy and quality provided by returnable glass packaging. I hope this is a move to help them conserve their returnables and keep them within the market so they may be returned rather than an indication they are planning to go 100% disposable.

NOTHING beats a Coke in a 6 1/2 oz bottle with a bit of condensation beading on the exterior. The 6 1/2 is THE contoured bottle which became one of the trademarks of Coca-Cola. Anything else is a cheap copy... and yes, that includes the 8 oz U.S. disposable.

Does anyone know of any independent U.S. bottlers still using the 6.5's and/or 10's with Coca-Cola/Coke in white script?

Dr. Galaga
03-16-2007, 06:09 PM
Does anyone know of any independent U.S. bottlers still using the 6.5's and/or 10's with Coca-Cola/Coke in white script?

The only one left is the Coke plant in Winona, MN (http://www.glassbottlesoda.org/bottlers/cokewinona.shtml). They've been discussed here before. I went there last summer: http://www.bevnet.com/bevboard/bevboard-general/27964-wi-mn-soda-run.html
They do 6.5, 10 and 16, but you need to provide empties. :cool: http://www.glassbottlesoda.org/images/cokewinonacase.gif

BetterWithCoke
03-17-2007, 01:09 AM
Those are gorgeous... I need to visit MN sometime!

Thanks!

Ben
03-18-2007, 04:43 PM
Maria's, actually.

But later times I went there and they had the Retornable again. Lately I've been getting my Mexican Coke from Imlay City and I haven't gotten anything but the Non-Retornables there in months.



Where in Saginaw you found the non-returnables? I was in Saginaw last week and found returnable coke and pepsi at marias on Shattuck. They didn't have anything at Guerra Grocery, but they guy there said when they do get it, it sells out in no time.

-Steve