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Yocod
07-21-2004, 12:58 AM
I'm a student, and recently I've heard a shop steward at a local Crown Cork & Seal plant speak about aluminum soda cans, among other things. The point being made is that everything is plastic now. Plastic bottled water is huge, along with sodas and sports drinks.

I, for one, prefer the taste of a cold Dr.Pepper in a metal can rather than a plastic bottle. Perhaps if companies could can water, rather than bottle, it would make a difference. That may get into matters of efficency and practicality. Plus, nobody may really care about it one way or the other.

What does anybody else think? Is the aluminum can dying out? Does anybody even care about my topic?

Shatter
07-21-2004, 02:41 AM
I think that a lot of soda companies would like to do away with aluminium cans just because plastic is a little cheaper. But I don't see it going away any time soon. PET bottles are cheaper, but they take up more room on a shelf. Cans are nice and compact, and they hold in the cold slightly longer than plastic. At least that's what i've always thought.

DietCokeEnthusiast
07-21-2004, 10:50 AM
The taste scale:

1. Glass Bottle
2. Aluminum Can
3. 20oz. Plastic Bottle
4. 2 litre Plastic Bottle

;)

Energydude
07-21-2004, 11:27 AM
I have to admit that is why I like SumPoosie Energy Drink it is in a glass bottle and is made with REAL CANE SUGAR!

Not many can say that anymore.... too bad :(

toby1
07-21-2004, 11:41 AM
hey edude, do you like dust on the glass bottle of SP or not?

Whats your preference?

Energydude
07-21-2004, 11:51 AM
I don't know where your from Toby but where I am from when I have SumPoosie I always make sure it is clean ...... and always is!!! tongue.gif

SamC
07-22-2004, 07:42 AM
OK, anyway, the can will remain simply because it is the most efficient mode for vending.

As to it in the retail venue, that is questionable. It may be dying out.

KanKing
07-22-2004, 08:22 AM
The aluminum can shall live forever! Or else I shall be forced to change my name to "JuicyBoxKing", or "PlasticBottleKing". But that will never happen.

Startup Dude
07-22-2004, 09:09 AM
I think the death of the glass bottle is more imminent :(

[ 07-22-2004, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: Startup Dude ]

XLS_04
07-22-2004, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by WhatTheWorldNeedsNowIsPiBB:
The taste scale:

1. Glass Bottle
2. Aluminum Can
3. 20oz. Plastic Bottle
4. 2 litre Plastic Bottle

;) I have to agree.

DietCokeEnthusiast
07-22-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Energydude:
I always make sure it is cleanDo you mean clean as in no dust on it or as in not "dirty" (dirty meaning like porno and trash like that)? Because I don't think you could make that drink not dirty (or 'clean' enough for a child to drink it without being disgusted or being scolded by his/her parents). smile.gif

fusion
07-23-2004, 06:27 PM
I think if the plastic can ever hits big, aluminum will definately be dead. As it is now, I know that 12oz plastic bottles jam vendors too easily.

There is also an issue with date coding. canned sodas (with hfcs/sugar) have a 9 month date code. the same soda in a 12oz bottle has a 70 day date code.

newage
08-11-2004, 07:52 PM
Hey Startup Dude, if the death of the glass bottle is more imminent in your eyes, than why have there been so many new beverages being launched in glass:
Inkos
Boylans (new flavors)
Jones (juices)
Steaz
Switch
Izze
Nectar Fizz

Oh I get it, it seems all the quality more naturally connected brands choose glass...and isn't the trend in the beverage space going natural...?...hmmmmmm, go figure.

Startup Dude
08-16-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by newage:
Hey Startup Dude, if the death of the glass bottle is more imminent in your eyes, than why have there been so many new beverages being launched in glass:
Inkos
Boylans (new flavors)
Jones (juices)
Steaz
Switch
Izze
Nectar Fizz

Oh I get it, it seems all the quality more naturally connected brands choose glass...and isn't the trend in the beverage space going natural...?...hmmmmmm, go figure. I agree that most premium beverages associate well with glass containers. However, once a beverage is a market success, or bought out by one of the 'evil' beverage multinationals, the switch to PET is inevitable (at least in the long run). The only way to increase sales once a beverage attains market maturity is to ultimately reduce the beverage's price. Glass is expensive and is way heavier than PET or aluminum. Margins will dictate the switch. Just look at the new Honest T PET bottle line. This is a trend, not that I'm in favor with it.

Energydude
08-16-2004, 03:00 PM
That seems to be an accurate comment. I have asked corporate why they do not put SumPoosie into a less expensive package and they too want to keep the quality that glass offers. It is more expensive but it does add a sense of quality.

ZmOz
08-17-2004, 03:11 AM
I doubt canned water will ever catch on. Just the other day I used an empty can for some water because I had no clean glasses...it just tasted weird.

fusion
08-17-2004, 12:56 PM
When Dasani was first introduced, it was in cans, but for a short time. You can also get some flavored/carbonated waters in cans, like Lacroix.