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DietCokeEnthusiast
09-14-2003, 10:58 AM
Do you think it will be good?

RunWithDaLilGuy
09-14-2003, 12:51 PM
it's good. are they making one?

DietCokeEnthusiast
09-14-2003, 12:57 PM
According to the August 29 Beverage Digest (I use the online headlines because there is no way in hell I would pay $650 for 22 issues):


In this issue:

Cott CEO Frank Weise and Kalil Bottling CEO George Kalil Join Program For BD's December Future Smarts Conference in New York City.

Private Label Grows, Brands Struggle. Cott Executive Cites 'Commitment From Retailers.' Beyond Beverages.

Water War: Coke Share Way Up on Dannon. Nestlé Way Down; Attack Ahead? Dannon and PL Close in Price.

Diet CSDs Outpace Regulars. Coke Plans Diet Coke with Lime Next Year. More New Products – Including Mid-Calorie – Ahead. Diet Coke Bigger Than Coke Classic Someday?

Vanilla Coke Scores Highest on Trial, Mt. Dew Code Red Highest on Repeat.

Pro Sports Pouring Rights: Pepsi Gains In Recent Moves. Coke Leads Overall.

Nestlé Says Global Bottled Water Market Totals 22 Bil Cases. Western Europe Quaffs.

Plus, as in every issue: Territory Changes/Deals, People and Briefs.

Green Sheet supplement:

Sports Venue Pouring Rights.Lists Coke and Pepsi venues for professional football, baseball, basketball, hockey, stock-car racing and soccer venues in the U.S.

teamtitan512
09-14-2003, 09:32 PM
I sense a success rate of Diet Coke w/Lemon. I doubt it will go over well.

fusion
09-15-2003, 02:29 AM
The product was also discussed at a recent CCE meeting (I mentioned it on the "something old" thread).

mjb1124
09-19-2003, 02:45 PM
It's a good idea, but I'm kind of skeptical about how the formula will turn out. The original formulation of Diet Coke with Lemon was dreadful but the new formula they introduced a few months ago is not too shabby. Diet Pepsi Twist is still better though.

DietCokeEnthusiast
09-19-2003, 04:45 PM
Are you kidding me? I tried that twice and couldn't even finish the can either time.

XLS_03
09-24-2003, 06:36 PM
I'm suprised they still never added a Lemon Coke to there line-up yet.

mjb1124
09-25-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by XLS_03:
I'm suprised they still never added a Lemon Coke to there line-up yet.They probably would've if Pepsi Twist had been a bigger success.

fusion
10-25-2003, 08:58 PM
Supposed launch for this is Spring 03. Also look for a new Sprite Remix flavor, but no word on what that flavor is (hopefully it's cherry!).

DietCokeEnthusiast
10-26-2003, 12:34 AM
Sweet, it came out in the Spring! Have to go look for it...

fusion
10-26-2003, 08:58 PM
I meant 2004! oops! redface.gif

DJ Brian
11-12-2003, 12:38 AM
Maybe the new flavor of remix is reformulated remix. That stuff is nasty. Only ONE bottler I tried it from tasted good, and the only reason was probably cause the bottler reformulated it to taste better. How's this for a fanta flavor... the remix from Coke of Northern New England I tried tasted like banana soda ;)

teamtitan512
11-12-2003, 10:28 PM
Central Coke's Remix is an interesting flavor concoction of Peach and Strawberry, along with maybe a little hint of grape. The more I taste of it, the more I like it, but the smell is noxious. You know someone's got Remix a mile away!

fusion
12-04-2003, 09:04 PM
Latest word is that Diet Coke w/ Lime will be out in early January.

Xtrem
12-05-2003, 07:11 AM
Diet Coke with lemon is already out in Spain. It almost tastes like Diet Coke poured in a glass then add a real piece of lemon. Only difference is that it tastes a little bit artificial.

If I had to give it the star system I would prob say 3 stars.

They have been advertising it on national TV for the past 6 months so its now everywhere.

XLS_03
12-05-2003, 10:40 AM
Diet Coke with Lemon has been across North America since 2001. Alot of people say it tastes artificial.

In 2003 they changed the formula and it taste more like diet Pepsi Twist , although I have not tried it yet...really have no desire to try it until they release A regular Lemon Coke version.

When Diet Coke with Lime comes out I will try it but again, I will not drink it on a regular basis because it's a diet drink.

fusion
12-06-2003, 12:46 AM
Ok, the Coke marketing machine at work. When Lime is introduced, Lemon will be relaunched. AGAIN! this will be the second time! How many freakin' times can you relaunch something?

XLS_03
12-07-2003, 12:41 PM
Relaunched again? Must not be doing well. Will it have another new taste?

Fusion... what is berry clear Sprite ReMix?

Do you know when the 24oz. 6 packs will be released in more areas?

Someone had mentioned the 1 liter Coke bottles will be straight sided again, and be called sharesize or something, any truth to that?

karks88
12-08-2003, 01:36 PM
The last Coke rep I talked to in my local grocery store said that Diet Coke w/ Lemon just sat on the shelves all over this area. He was hoping they would just put it out of its misery ;)

SURGE
12-08-2003, 01:41 PM
DC w/L is dog foot, though the reformulation is better. This time Pepsi did a better job, not worth drinking but better.

fusion
12-08-2003, 10:53 PM
Berryclear ReMix is going to replace Tropical in April. I scanned the pic off a pamphlet I grabbed from the office. :cool:

Not sure if Lemon will get a new taste, I think they are going to just tie it in with the Lime and push them both hard (and watch them fail).

I haven't heard any word about the 24oz. I know that sales are skyrocketing here, we are 2/$5 in almost all chains, and $1.99 for the military (commissary). Still the same flavors, Coke, Diet, Sprite, Vanilla, CF Diet, Nestea, MM Lemonade, Dasani. I've also seen Mello Yello and Dr Pepper (angle bottle) produced by the Cleveland TN plant.

I did hear that Coke is test marketing a big-slam type 1 liter, with the wide mouth and large cap. I don't know anything beyond that.

XLS_03
12-13-2003, 06:13 PM
Only time will tell how good they will do.

I heard about the wide cap and it reminded me of the Pepsi big slam too. From what I was told it will be able to fit in most cup holder on cars and bikes. That is why I think they made it straight sided and not contour.

Anybody think there are any plans for regular Coke flavor extensions? The diet flavors have more variety than the regular flavors now.

fusion
12-13-2003, 06:17 PM
Not a flavor extension, but there has been some more chatter about a mid-calorie version of Coke.

XLS_03
12-15-2003, 07:40 PM
I heard about the mid calorie stuff too. Is there really a demand for this?

fusion
12-16-2003, 12:03 AM
I think so, but I wonder if it is just a fad.

With the success of Atkins and other diets, and schools kicking high calorie sodas to the curb, soda companies may develop lower calorie beverages to win back consumers, without the stigma of diet sodas (and the taste that goes with them).

Coke's Swerve is mid-calorie. They use a combination of Spenda and HFCS to sweeten it.

RunWithDaLilGuy
12-16-2003, 12:46 PM
for the 24oz six packs, they are almost always the same price as cans in michigan, even when on sale, and the cans blow out while the 24oz 6packs sit. not a popular package at all and since the plastic is once again the same size, people buy the cans.

RunWithDaLilGuy
12-16-2003, 08:29 PM
plus we only have coke, diet coke, dcf coke and sprite and dasani. only once have i seen dr pepper (no squirt) from cleveland tennessee, it looks so comical i don't think they did it again.

golee1
12-27-2003, 02:30 AM
Came into the Warehouse today. It is, suprisingly, pretty good. Better than regular diet coke in my opinion.

fusion
12-27-2003, 10:32 PM
I'm assuming it's an Ace-K/Aspartame sweetened drink? That's what Coke did with the other diet flavors, which makes them pretty drinkable. I can't stomach Diet Coke or CF Diet Coke. Ugh.

RunWithDaLilGuy
12-28-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by golee1:
Came into the Warehouse today. It is, suprisingly, pretty good. Better than regular diet coke in my opinion. what came in, DCwL or Swerve?

golee1
12-28-2003, 12:26 PM
We have both in, but I only tried the Diet Coke W/Lime.

RunWithDaLilGuy
12-28-2003, 08:32 PM
who's making them? what's swerve look like?!?!?!?!

fusion
12-28-2003, 09:32 PM
Check out Swerve (http://www.swervedrinks.com/) for pictures.

Swerve looks a lot like Slap, and that's what it is based on. Choglit failed miserably, and got kicked to the curb.

Vanana is the best out of the three. Chocolate tastes too cocoa-y, and the bloo reminds me of strawberry Quik.

fusion
12-28-2003, 09:36 PM
Oh, and Swerve is in 11 ounce cans, produced by Batavia, New York based copacker (O-AT-KA Milk Products). They also used to produce Choglit and Planet Java (is that stuff still sold anymore?)

XLS_03
12-28-2003, 10:10 PM
interesting. i am a soda drinker more though. swerve seems to be more of a compitition of nestle quick.

XLS_03
12-28-2003, 10:12 PM
I assume Diet Coke with Lime is sweetened with NutraSweet since the 2 big companies are still trying to keep away from the Splenda brand sweetner.

fusion
12-29-2003, 12:22 AM
Swerve is made with sucralose (the generic name for Splenda) and sugar.

Coke uses a combination of Ace-K (the abbreviation for acesulfame potassium) and aspartame in their light/diet drinks, except for Diet Coke and CF Diet Coke. They still use just aspartame. And Tab, which has saccharin.

Ace-K's "brand name" in the us is Sunett.

Robot
12-29-2003, 02:11 AM
Will Swerve be in 12/24 packs anytime soon?

RunWithDaLilGuy
12-29-2003, 03:40 AM
wait, i thought swerve was the mid claorie cola...

fusion
12-30-2003, 12:06 AM
No, Swerve is the line of milk-based drinks.

I doubt you'll see it in multipacks. It comes in the warehouse in 24 loose cans in a cardboard tray, which is shrinkwrapped. The retail is usually about the same as 20oz CSD.

Cokeologist
12-30-2003, 08:45 AM
If DC w Lime has been received "in the warehouse", can you post a pic of the graphics? When will it be released to consumers?

fusion
12-31-2003, 12:34 AM
I have a picture from the ad campaign for Diet w/ Lime, it's a can that's "sliced" at the end, revealing slices of lime. It's kind of silly looking, but I could scan and post it.

The "dynamic ribbon" below the Diet Coke logo on the can has a green tint to it, and there's a slice of lime along with the words "with Lime" across the ribbon.

Launch date (at least in Maryland) is the around the 14th of January. I've seen authorizations for it in most all the chains. 20oz and 6pk cans will be coming first. Food Lion's authorized side stacks of the cans in their stores.

RunWithDaLilGuy
12-31-2003, 12:49 AM
cce-lansing, mich, hasn't received any diet coke with lemon in a long while, the thinking being that they are waiting out for lime.

XLS_03
12-31-2003, 01:08 AM
yes scan the pic please.

fusion
12-31-2003, 01:30 AM
http://members.aol.com/dialasong/lime.jpg

golee1
12-31-2003, 02:49 AM
It's went into stores here on Monday.

teamtitan512
01-01-2004, 12:28 AM
No sign of it from Central's Cumberland sales center yet that I know of.

XLS_04
01-07-2004, 11:42 PM
thanks for posting the pic. i like the graphics.

Shatter
01-08-2004, 04:09 AM
No sign of it around me either.

Cheer-wined
01-08-2004, 10:25 AM
haven't seen it in Consolidated's central territory yet.

fusion
01-08-2004, 11:50 PM
http://members.aol.com/dialasong/limebottle.jpg

RunWithDaLilGuy
01-09-2004, 02:44 AM
so what
s the mid calorie cola called

fusion
01-09-2004, 07:31 PM
no idea. I don't even know if it's made it out of the lab, yet. There was no mention of it at the first quarter sales rally this week.

teamtitan512
01-10-2004, 12:37 AM
No Lime here yet, but I can still find Lemom Fridge Packs if anyone cares. Both Martin's and Food Lion have them.

fusion
01-10-2004, 01:07 AM
CCE Mid-Atlantic just dropped Diet w/ Lemon 16.9oz 6pks, along with Cherry 16.9oz 6pks. I wonder if this is signaling an eventual chance from 16.9oz to 24oz.

Diet w/ Lemon FPs are readily available around here, though Valencia Orange light has become impossible to find.

Diet w/ Lime FPs should be out at the beginning of March.

Terry K
01-11-2004, 04:20 AM
Our crack research staff hasn't found any of the Lime on the streets *yet* in the LA area. I've heard Coke is holding any new products in the LA area due to the pending FP conversion, but that is only rumour.

Not to mention the grocery strike which is crippling sales of new products (Vanilla Pepsi has taken a major hit here since the big 3 went into labour problems)

24 oz have NOT hit California yet. If you want a Dr Pepper 24 oz, gotta go to a Pepsi area to get it.

[ 01-11-2004, 03:21 AM: Message edited by: Terry K ]

RunWithDaLilGuy
01-11-2004, 04:23 AM
coke, pepsi and 7up are having labor disputes?

DietCokeEnthusiast
01-11-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by RunWithDaLilGuy:
coke, pepsi and 7up are having labor disputes? The big 3 grocery stores (I believe).

golee1
01-11-2004, 09:32 PM
Weird it's here in Staunton but doesn't seem to be much place else. Central on the cutting edge? I thought I'd never see the day... Today's Kroger ad has Coca-Cola fridge packs 4 for $10, and Diet Coke w/Lime 20 ounce buy 2 get 1 free, and 6 packs of Diet Coke w/lime cans for $1.99. I thought it weird that Central is starting the cans of lime in 6 packs instead of 12 packs.

XLS_04
01-11-2004, 10:16 PM
its already out over there?

fusion
01-11-2004, 10:42 PM
Coke rolled out Diet with Lemon in 6 pack cans first as well. 12 packs followed later. I think it's a way to get people to sample something without buying a whole 12pk. Similar to when they rolled out Vanilla in 20oz first, which was a ripoff of Pepsi rolling out MD Code Red in 20oz first.

Retails are looking to be under $2 for a 6pk.. $1.99 most places, $1.67 at the commissary. I'd like to see them get it down to 99¢ and drop pallets in the Wally Worlds. I remember that happening when Citra was rolled out.

We've got a target date of 3/1 for Fridge Pack Diet w/ Lime.

Terry K
01-12-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by WhatTheWorldNeedsNowIsPiBB:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by RunWithDaLilGuy:
coke, pepsi and 7up are having labor disputes? The big 3 grocery stores (I believe). </font>[/QUOTE]Correct, the three big grocers (Albertsons, Ralphs, and Vons) are currently in a huge strike that has gone on 3 months now. No one much is shopping there, and the soda guys are having fun trying to place product in stores.

Terry K
01-12-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by fusion:
Coke rolled out Diet with Lemon in 6 pack cans first as well. 12 packs followed later. I think it's a way to get people to sample something without buying a whole 12pk. Similar to when they rolled out Vanilla in 20oz first, which was a ripoff of Pepsi rolling out MD Code Red in 20oz first.

Actually, there's a good reason to start with 20 oz first. Simply put, its *far* cheaper to put a product in the trades in 20 oz than it is to start with cans. 20 oz is also more of a profit center for the bottlers.

Robot
01-12-2004, 03:10 PM
yah.. dont all new sodas roll out in 20 oz first?

XLS_04
01-12-2004, 04:10 PM
now most of them do, before code red they didnt.

sundrop
01-12-2004, 04:22 PM
CCBCC rolled out Diet Coke with lime today with 4 packages:2ltr, fridgepacks, 6pk cans and 20oz.

fusion
01-12-2004, 09:49 PM
Philadelphia Coke rolled it out today as well. I saw Fridgepacks and 2 liters in a store, along with the new Diet w/ Lemon logo.

http://members.aol.com/dialasong/lemonlime.jpg

XLS_04
01-12-2004, 10:42 PM
wow so diet coke with lemon really did get a new makeover. 3rd one. I like it better actually. thats 2nd one was too plain.

I have seen a logo for vanilla coke with the word "Coke" in regular script with silver trim around it, and the Coke classic background.

fusion
01-12-2004, 10:54 PM
That sounds just like the German version of VC. Look on the other thread I just posted on(European beverages) to see a picture of it.

RunWithDaLilGuy
01-13-2004, 03:43 PM
i like both. so philly coke is one of the guys that uses those crazy caps.

Robot
01-13-2004, 04:54 PM
Anyone try this stuff yet?

I have never had Coke/Diet Coke with Lemon nor Pepsi Twist..

Will give the lemon and lime versions of Diet Coke as soon as Lime is out.

XLS_04
01-13-2004, 07:24 PM
those crazy caps? the lemon always had a yellow cap here. diet has white caps, and regular has red caps, sprite has blue caps, minute maid has black caps. thats for the coke products anyway.

as far as pepsi twist, they did a very good job on it, but you'll always hear complaints because most of us are brain washed into thinking Coke is it!

diet coke with lemon tastes very artificial, but if coke came out with the lemon first people would have acting like they did with vanilla coke.

[ 01-13-2004, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: XLS_04 ]

RunWithDaLilGuy
01-13-2004, 10:16 PM
i meant the ridges. they are more pronounced, more raised.

fusion
01-13-2004, 10:50 PM
Those caps are standard for most of the northeast divisions in CCE (New York, New England, Mid-Atlantic) and the indie Coke bottlers around here as well (Central, ABARTA, Philadelphia). You'd really have to go south to the Georgia division, or Eastern Great Lakes stuff out of Twinsburg to see the non-ridged caps.

teamtitan512
01-14-2004, 06:21 PM
Found from Central in Cumberland in 20 oz. at Wal-Mart and Sheetz, as well as Sprite 20 oz. w/the new graphics.

Cokeologist
01-15-2004, 10:07 AM
Diet Coke with Lime has been available in Charlotte, NC since at least Fri 09Jan in 2 liters, fridge pack cans, and 20 oz bottles. Diet Coke with Lemon with the new graphics is also available now in 2 liters and fridge pack cans; I haven't seen the 20 oz bottles yet.

The Diet Coke with Lime press release on the Coca-Cola web site states "Diet Coke with Lime will be offered initially in 20-ounce and 2-liter bottles, multi-pack cans, as well as 8-ounce bottles, where available." Does anyone know where 8 oz bottles of Diet Coke with Lime would be available?

RunWithDaLilGuy
01-15-2004, 02:54 PM
8 ounce bottles?!

RunWithDaLilGuy
01-17-2004, 02:01 AM
cce-mi is running 6pk can displays of dclime, dclemon, dccherry. dcvanilla and dc/dccf to push their line of diet colas all at once.

SURGE
01-26-2004, 01:44 AM
Well the Lime is really good, too bad its attached to Diet Coke. If this were a regualr Coke extension it would be heaps better. Still way better than lemon. I like the makeover too.

boilermaker
02-21-2004, 07:11 PM
Yuck! Had some samples while attanding a trade show in Atlanta last week (the only thing Coke was sampling there). The weak lime flavoring had a chemical/artificial taste to it. Luckily the Pepsi and DPSU folks were giving out samples.

golee1
02-21-2004, 10:32 PM
tastes a lot better than lemon though, sells better too.

XLS_04
02-23-2004, 01:02 AM
I have to disagree with you on your comment about it selling better. Not many people even know it exists still.

diet Coke's flavored products taste too synthetic.

golee1
02-23-2004, 12:13 PM
at least in this area, I don't know know any of the national figures.

Ron
03-03-2004, 03:03 PM
Saw it at Raley's in N. Calif. in the small plastic bottles. That's the way w/lemon first appeared here. I've seen no ads for it.

toby1
03-03-2004, 04:41 PM
have you heard the radio campaign?

"they put the lime in the diet coke"

Ron
03-05-2004, 05:19 PM
It's good. I like it better than Diet Coke w/lemon.

SplitLevelP
03-06-2004, 01:10 AM
My wife loves the stuff.She is a hard sell. She hated lemon.

fusion
03-07-2004, 12:37 AM
If you look at page two of this thread, I posted a picture of the new Lemon.. they reformulated it (again). I think it tastes 100% better than the last try. and 1000% better than the original.

ben
03-23-2004, 03:23 AM
DIET COKE WITH LIME just arrived in canada (DIET COKE WITH LEMON ARRIVED IN CANADA ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO)