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SumPoosieCat
07-11-2006, 04:12 PM
The review by Bevnet seemed to be more about the name of the product than the product itself. I always hear how excited everyone is when they find a product with real sugar in it and they are even willing to drive hundreds of miles for it. Well... SumPoosie is made with Real Cane Sugar. It is by far the best looking, smelling, and tasting energy drink on the market. If you don't believe me compare it to ANY on the market side by side and see if I am right. Better ingredients make a better product. I wish the review was more about the look and the taste and less about the name.

the saint
07-11-2006, 04:56 PM
That should be a wake up call to you on the name of your product.

greg
07-11-2006, 04:58 PM
I agree with your assessment that your drink taste great. But the reality of any product is NAME recognition. Nike, Coke, Pepsi, Playboy, etc: All of these names do not imply something other than what it is. If your drink was called Fred's Energy Juice it may get a real favorable straight forward critique. However, calling it "Sum Poosie", a reference that every adolescent young man(as well as woman) is very familiar with makes your product seem like a novelty item that is bbest suited for the shelf at Spencer Gifts or at the local sex/head shop.
You can tell me and everyone on this board about your gramndmothers cat, but how do you tell that to someone who is looking for an energy drink to take back to work with them? Furthermore, how are they going to explain to their co-workers their choice of drink.

Like I said, your prodcuct taste GREAT! But the name will hold it back from really getting the recognition it deserves.

Just being honest with My Opinion.

NRGSLLR
07-11-2006, 05:40 PM
Just think about the Guy trying to explain to his wife or girlfriend why he is drinking SP!

Most of them won't believe him if he says..."but honey it tastes great!"

SumPoosieCat
07-11-2006, 07:31 PM
I am not going to defend the name Poosie. Poosie is the same as Focker and that was on 7,000 movie screens. In this day and age when children 8 years old are looking at things on the internet we did not talk about until we were 15.... the word Poosie is the least of our worries. You have near naked women on TV commercials for Girls Gone Wild yet SumPoosie Energy Drink in the Beer isle is just too much to imagine... where do you people live??? SumPoosie in a bar where blowjobs and sex on the beach has been ordered for years is a big deal ??? SumPoosie in a convenience store where they sell all kinds of speed, condoms, liquor, cigarettes and porn magazines is too much too???
By the way liquor and cigarettes kill half a million people a year... where is the outrage?Poosie Galore was the name of a bond girl back in the 1960's !!! But SumPoosie is too much... come on..... anyway the POINT I was making is that the review should be on the CONTENTS of what is inside. Its a shame that such a fine made product gets slighted because of the name Poosie. I just don't focking get it.

SumPoosieCat
07-11-2006, 07:32 PM
By the way Greg.... Coke is named Coke because it contained COCAINE at one time....!

OSU
07-11-2006, 07:50 PM
SP from what I have seen is mainly in "RAVE" or after hours clubs beverage alone or w/ liquor a little bidie said it effects the narcotics for more or better high AND Im not saying from experience, However I did see a thing or to when I was in Miami a few months ago the S. Beach club scene Is one of a kind, CRAZY ! SP actually had decked out high grafic Pink full size trucks with the beds of the trucks full of Ice and beautiful ladies handing it out like is was candy..
The trucks were the only thing to really talk about !

BevNET
07-11-2006, 09:27 PM
If beverages were valued based on taste alone, neither Red Bull, Coke, or Pepsi would be popular drinks...

BevNET
07-11-2006, 09:38 PM
In all seriousness, the comments in the review weren't about being offended or something like that. The product is a novelty product, which is fine if you'll accept that it's just that. It probably can make some $$$, but this isn't a product that can compete with mainstream drinks.

SumPoosieCat
07-11-2006, 11:07 PM
Ok... then what were the comments about? Why give only 2 stars? The look of the can? The taste of the drink? That is what the review should be based on. Is there a better looking, smelling or tasting energy drink? Novelty drinks as you call them get a lower score no matter what? The category is somehow doomed by Bevnet? Nothing is good or bad except by comparison... when compared with others it gets 2 stars? Based... on ... what?

SumPoosieCat
07-12-2006, 09:12 AM
Umm... Bevnet....your comparing the taste of Coke and Pepsi...with ....RED BULL ??? Are you kidding??? Children and Adults around the world love the taste of Coke and Pepsi..... I don't think you can say that about RED BULL.

BevNET
07-12-2006, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Umm... Bevnet....your comparing the taste of Coke and Pepsi...with ....RED BULL ??? Are you kidding??? Children and Adults around the world love the taste of Coke and Pepsi..... I don't think you can say that about RED BULL. You misunderstood. The point is that Coke, Pepsi, and Red Bull dominate in terms of sales but are NOT the best tasting products in their respective categories. So, just that you are totally clear, the purpose of the post was to state that taste is only PART of it.

As for the 2 stars, the review states exactly what the issues are...

SumPoosieCat
07-12-2006, 12:01 PM
Again, I think you are missing the point you are placing Red Bull in with Coke and Pepsi and saying they are not the best tasting products.... for once I must admit you have never been more WRONG! Coke is the number one flavor in the world!!! That flavor or taste is number one around the world so... I have to ask.. what are you talking about???

Now I know why SumPoosie got 2 stars. :rolleyes:

CStoreCatMan
07-12-2006, 03:22 PM
TTB -

Here's the bottom line. You made a good product, with great ingredients and taste. Nobody is arguing that. But, that's the only thing you're talking about and it takes a lot more than just taste to sell a product. Its about the name, packaging, marketability, etc. That's why Coke, Pepsi, Red Bull are so successful and popular - they spend billions on marketing, distribution, etc. If there was that much cash in the SP arsenal, it could be just as big - maybe.

The name of your product (clever and playful as it is) LIMITS the places where it will be sold because it DOES allow people to connect it with the obvious dirty reference. You REFUSE to admit that and hide behind the statement "its only dirty if you make it dirty." Bull! You knew exactly what you were doing when you made the name and IT IS catchy...don't get me wrong. But it will limit where it will be sold and by who. Mainstream retailers won't go near it...yes they sell liquor, cigarettes, and all the stuff you mentioned but the last time I shopped the liquor aisle, I don't recall finding a liquor named "P****** Juice."

[ 07-12-2006, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

greg
07-12-2006, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
By the way Greg.... Coke is named Coke because it contained COCAINE at one time....! Dude I'm trying to help you but you seem blinded but your ambition and your headstrong desire to hold on to name that is offensive to many. I've danced around it but how many woman or men for that matter,want to buy a drink that is called ***** JUICE!? Sounds like it holds the contents similar to a cross of piss and a yeast infection. You have to get people past the name before they get into the contents!
IT IS A BAD NAME PERIOD. The drink taste great but if I didn't get a free sample I would have never known that because I wouldn't purchase one if I saw it in the store. How do I explain that to my wife? I don't care how socially liberal you may think the American public is I don't think they are ready for SUM POOSIE on their living room table or desk at work.
Keep it in Strip Clubs and head shops but don't complain that you didn't get a fair shake out of the BEVNET because they concentrated on your name. Thats how marketing works. You use the name to market and they used it to tell everyone about your product.

By the way...how many people in 1900 knew that the main ingredients of the drink Coca-Cola came from coca plants and that one day in the future, well after the name COKE was established it would become the drug of choice for 70's young affluent crowd followed by the more severe form of the drug Crack? That doesn't play with me. you will have to do better than that. Coke did not come up with their name to be a play on words with a drug.

CStoreCatMan
07-12-2006, 05:55 PM
Greg is right..."Coke" at the time it was created came before the drug...and therefore was not an intentional play on words. On the other hand, SUM POOSIE, is an obvious, intentional play on the derogatory form for no other reason than shock value. You even do it here on the boards..."have you had SUM POOSIE today?" blah, blah, blah.

If you are truly talking about your grandma's cat...then your product name doesn't make any sense!! Have I had some of your grandma's cat today? Even though that didn't sound good..you know what I mean. That would be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard - especially in reference to an energy drink.

IF you introduced your SUM POOSIE energy drink as one geared towards adults - to be positioned in bars, nightclubs, alternative shops, everyone would have called you a genius. Yet, you insist it isn't dirty. The problem with that argument is you throw around the term "SUM POOSIE" on the boards like I mentioned above...NONE of your statements ever have anything to do with a cat. You only mention the cat when someone attacks the name of your product. Yet, you seem to get a big kick out of the shock value your drink does get from some people. Have some credibility man...

greg
07-12-2006, 05:57 PM
Hey Bevenet, Why did you give me a bad review on my drink I made following my Navy Captain grandfathers recipe. I think Dick's Seamans Juice is great! Why did you concentrate so much on the name? It taste great. My Wife loves it and so do my kids!

CStoreCatMan
07-12-2006, 06:03 PM
LMAO!!!

Hypothetical response from Bevnet:

Greg - even though we enjoyed your grandpappy's "juice" we found the name and label (of a whale emptying his blow hole) a bit offensive. Good luck selling your product at the Blue Oyster!

Mr Zabe
07-12-2006, 08:07 PM
LMAO...I would like to know where I can sign up for an IBO. It bet Dick's Seamans Juice might be a good seller in my chain of adult book and marital aids stores, "Dick Richard's Dick Emporiums.LOL

SumPoosieCat
07-12-2006, 08:47 PM
I guess you guys didn't hear a single word I said. SumPoosie is to be sold where liquor is sold. Just like the "bra" is not for everyone either is SumPoosie no product fits everyone.

Not my point.... my point is Bevnet said "Coke and Pepsi are not about taste" and that is all they are about in fact Coke is the worlds top selling flavor.

Again, because my product can't be sold in Walmart it gets fewer stars??? huh? Does it get fewer stars for being novelty? The product was designed to be sold where liquor is sold... certainly I can thing of a few other places as well. I wanted them to review the product for its packaging and contents not the NAME...if that were the case...if the name weighs in that much why send product for review?

By the way... did any of you see MEET THE FOCKERS or was that too much for you as well?

By the way Greg if you knew your history you would know that many soldiers throughout history including the Civil War and WWI chewed on COKE LEAVES to supress appetite and give them energy. Coke was heavily used long before Coca Cola came around. The name Coca Cola comes straight from the drug and was a marketing and sales point. In the late 1800's addiction to coke was wide spread. If you want to know more about the history of Coke let me know.

BevNET
07-12-2006, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Not my point.... my point is Bevnet said "Coke and Pepsi are not about taste" and that is all they are about in fact Coke is the worlds top selling flavor. It's the number one cola BRAND not flavor. You're beating a dead horse here...

SumPoosieCat
07-12-2006, 10:08 PM
Umm.. sorry BevNet but according to the Guinness Book of World Records it is the number 1 Flavor in the world. Take the Coca Cola tour in Atlanta sometime. ;)

ALLPRO
07-12-2006, 10:39 PM
Hey, Look at the bright side...you are getting more attention than "Dickens Cider"!!!

Ron Swedelson
07-13-2006, 12:38 AM
I am addicted to diet coke, but I know there are better tasting drinks out there. Same as McDonnald, most popular burger joint in the world, but not the best quality of flavor. Not trying to get all in this discusion again. Sum Poosie tastes pretty good, I even shared a small glass with my daughter because she liked the color of it. Bottle stayed on my kitchen counter for almost a year, now I think it with the rest of my collection in the garage. Mainstream, no, the name just wont allow it. Intended for bars and adult venues, thats cool, probably were it belongs and would prosper better. Most people here do not seem to be raggin on the brand, just trying to stear the discution in the right direction and argue on the right points.
What we have to remember is, reguardles of what the history of Coke, or the cocaine or any other play on words, no one will be in every store to educate your buyers as to why they should not go with their initial reaction to the words "Sum Poosie" With out the education on the brand, people won't care and many will laugh or be offended. That is the true issue. Beer Isles and bars and strip clubs and dance clubs...thats were it needs to be taken

DJ HawaiianShirt
07-13-2006, 12:47 AM
Btw everyone... Coke was originally sold as a medicine, not a beverage. That's why it contained cocaine. Still today many medicines have compounds that are molecularly similar to cocaine as a pain suppressant. Ever heard of novacaine?


Anyway, to the relative newbies... we've had dicussions like this before. What one needs to realize is that BevNET's reviews are not meant solely for consumers, but very much meant for distributors/buyers as well.

So for places like regional convenience stores, Walmarts, etc., a 2-star rating might indeed be appriopriate-- not as an overall rating of the formula, but the mainstream desirability from the seller's standpoint.

greg
07-13-2006, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by CStoreCatMan:
LMAO!!!

Hypothetical response from Bevnet:

Greg - even though we enjoyed your grandpappy's "juice" we found the name and label (of a whale emptying his blow hole) a bit offensive. Good luck selling your product at the Blue Oyster! "A whale empting out his blow hole!" Pure genius!
What a picture I got from that. We should hook up and market some drinks.LOL

CStoreCatMan
07-13-2006, 12:19 PM
I have lots of ideas! LOL :D

SumPoosieCat
07-13-2006, 08:12 PM
That is my point DJ Hawaiian ! SumPoosie sells very well in convenience stores and other main stream stores like Walgreens. I didn't want BevNet to tell me where they think my "Brand" can be sold and rate it... I wanted them to rate my product. The packaging and the contents.

But BevNet decided to Rate it 2 stars and say "This product is not mainstream" Huh? Nice opinion but SumPoosie is not designed to be sold everywhere. You call in novelty ... fine but do you get fewer stars for that?

SumPoosie is made with the best ingredients and is the only canned energy drink that uses REAL CANE SUGAR. The can was designed by one of the leading graphic artist firms in the country.

great packaging + what many consider the best tasting energy drink on the market = 2 stars?

Then to top it all BevNet says, "If beverages were valued based on taste alone, neither Red Bull, Coke, or Pepsi would be popular drinks"

Huh... what? Coke and Pepsi are ALL about taste.
And lumping in Red Bull with Coke and Pepsi when it comes to taste.... huh...what?

I think it is unfair to rate a drink lower because... Hey you can't sell this at Walmart or Krogers...It wasn't meant to be sold at Walmart and to tell you the truth I wouldn't want it sold there anyway.

What I wanted BevNet to do was rate my PRODUCT not give me an opinion on my BRAND. If that were the case they didn't need the product all.

BevNET
07-13-2006, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Umm.. sorry BevNet but according to the Guinness Book of World Records it is the number 1 Flavor in the world. Take the Coca Cola tour in Atlanta sometime. ;) The Guinness Book of World Records doesn't rate things...If that's the case, it's purely due to volume. You are obviously never going to get the point...

BevNET
07-13-2006, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by DJ HawaiianShirt:
Anyway, to the relative newbies... we've had dicussions like this before. What one needs to realize is that BevNET's reviews are not meant solely for consumers, but very much meant for distributors/buyers as well.They are not meant for consumers at all. This is an industry site. However, since we don't require registration or membership, anyone is free to read it.

BevNET
07-13-2006, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Huh... what? Coke and Pepsi are ALL about taste.Not true.


Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
What I wanted BevNet to do was rate my PRODUCT not give me an opinion on my BRAND. If that were the case they didn't need the product all. That's not how reviews work.

No, novelty doesn't mean two stars. Two stars means that you have created needs improvement in our opinion.

And, as per the review, it's a major improvement over the original freshmen effort...but it still needs work. You should try to learn something from everyone has responded to you rather than try to debate it...

[ 07-13-2006, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: BevNET ]

SumPoosieCat
07-14-2006, 08:44 AM
BevNet your comments on Coke and Pepsi are just plain wrong... people buy Coke and Pepsi for the taste plain and simple... there is no other reason.

Secondly, again you stated SumPoosie needs improvement but you do not state "what" needs improving.

Lastly, only CstoreCatman had anything constuctive or interesting points but still many want to tell me how this will NEVER be sold MAINSTREAM but it already is!!!

I understand to some the name Poosie is just soooo offensive but it makes no sense. Poosie Cat has been Poosie Cat for hundreds of years. This is 2006 by the time a child knows what a Poosie is... they have already seen it on the internet... so who are you protecting from the evils of SumPoosie Energy Drink?

Coco Rico
07-14-2006, 07:32 PM
Wow, now I know what a hissy fit looks like in a chat room.

What are you so worked up about? Red Bull got a pretty low rating on BevNet and it really didn't seem to affect it's sales. Let it go man.

By the way, cocaine was legal in the US until 1914. Sigmund Freud actually recommended its use to cure depression and sexual impotence. The physical effect provided by the cocaine in John Pemberton's original formula for Coca Cola was one of the reason's for Coke's rise to national popularity.

Cocaine was actually banned not for any health reasons, but rather due to racist politics. It was ignorantly assumed back in that day that cocaine lead to superhuman strength in black men and that this drove them to rape white women. That is why cocaine was made illegal. Another sad example of our nation's dubious history.

CR

SumPoosieCat
07-14-2006, 08:32 PM
Coco you are exactly right and thanks for having the balls to say it.

Lol... it's not really a hissy fit I just would like BevNet to explain a two star rating for a great product with a great can design.

I have to admit I was really thrown off when BevNet said Coke and Pepsi would not be popular if it was about taste only.....???? Why else would you buy a Coke or Pepsi ??? Healing Power...lol

johnnyrockets
07-14-2006, 11:37 PM
I'm just surprised these geniuses didn't decide to call it "Poosie Juice" or something and wonder what all the fuss was about. LOL

johnnyrockets
07-14-2006, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
I am not going to defend the name Poosie. Poosie is the same as Focker and that was on 7,000 movie screens. In this day and age when children 8 years old are looking at things on the internet we did not talk about until we were 15.... the word Poosie is the least of our worries. You have near naked women on TV commercials for Girls Gone Wild yet SumPoosie Energy Drink in the Beer isle is just too much to imagine... where do you people live??? SumPoosie in a bar where blowjobs and sex on the beach has been ordered for years is a big deal ??? SumPoosie in a convenience store where they sell all kinds of speed, condoms, liquor, cigarettes and porn magazines is too much too???
By the way liquor and cigarettes kill half a million people a year... where is the outrage?Poosie Galore was the name of a bond girl back in the 1960's !!! But SumPoosie is too much... come on..... anyway the POINT I was making is that the review should be on the CONTENTS of what is inside. Its a shame that such a fine made product gets slighted because of the name Poosie. I just don't focking get it. sure TTB..just go ahead and ADD your contribution to all the classless, scummy crap that's going on in the world. I mean you wouldn't want to actually contribute something that might help REVERSE the conditions that would have a kid viewing obscenites at a young age or anything. (For example if they walk into a convenince store and see your skanky drink on the shelf in full view) No...that's not for you.

I mean civilization has it's "Low Class Trash" firmly established..and you need to get on in there and take your rightful place among the ranks!

[ 07-14-2006, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: johnnyrockets ]

SumPoosieCat
07-15-2006, 08:46 AM
SumPoosie Energy Drink adds to the scum going on in the world?

Oh... I thought it was the Internet, HBO, Showtime, Adult Magazines, and Girls Gone Wild commercials... not to mention Sex predators, cigarettes, liquor, drugs, and single parent households.

By the time any child can make a sexual reference to SumPoosie Energy Drink they have already seen the real thing many times before.

Seriously, if you look at our logo and come up with some sexual images our thoughts... your a little weird to begin with.

With all the serious crazy things going on in the world please refrain from telling me how terrible and sinful SumPoosie Energy Drink is... you just sound silly.

the saint
07-15-2006, 09:04 AM
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SumPoosieCat
07-15-2006, 09:12 AM
By the way johnnyrockets... FOR THE RECORD !

I did invent, develop, and market a product for children that is currently sold across America and in 7 different countries. I also hold the patents and trademarks. So... I believe I have made my contribution to children around the world ....how about you?

Take a look ! www.2cleanhands.org (http://www.2cleanhands.org)

DJ HawaiianShirt
07-15-2006, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:


Seriously, if you look at our logo and come up with some sexual images our thoughts... your a little weird to begin with.

You mean your cat logo? It doesn't matter, because it's next to the name "SumPoosie".

C'mon now. Why can't we just admit that this is like our other board member, Dizz's, drink "Liquid Blow". Both products are delicious, but their packaging appeals to a shock reaction and an impulse buy(at least the first time).

I really have no problem with these "culture degrading" products that are tantamount to other bad things like "the internet and single-parent households", but I recognize that shock sells, and therefore, SumPoosie is selling.

BevNET tries to gauge mainstream marketability. SumPoosie belongs in non-mainstream places (I'd personally like to see it take over RedBull in bars). BevNET scored it low because its potential isn't as broad as some other products. If you believe BevNET's review will hurt its sales, then its your job to counteract it with superior PR, and more importantly, free tastings.

This thread has been beaten to death, I'm sure almost everyone agrees with me.

SumPoosieCat
07-15-2006, 12:28 PM
Huh ? The BevNet review is to reveiw my PRODUCT not give me their opinion on whether my product was mainstream or not. It was not designed to be mainstream ... aka "sold everywhere". It was designed to be an adult placed great tasting energy drink.

Lol... I don't think BevNet's Review helps or hurts either way. I was hoping it would be fair and it simply wasn't.

It's like saying a bra isn't a very good jockstrap. IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A JOCKSTRAP!

What would have been a more honest statement is, "Hey great product ... but we still don't like the name."

greg
07-17-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Huh ? The BevNet review is to reveiw my PRODUCT not give me their opinion on whether my product was mainstream or not. It was not designed to be mainstream ... aka "sold everywhere". It was designed to be an adult placed great tasting energy drink.

Lol... I don't think BevNet's Review helps or hurts either way. I was hoping it would be fair and it simply wasn't.

It's like saying a bra isn't a very good jockstrap. IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A JOCKSTRAP!

What would have been a more honest statement is, "Hey great product ... but we still don't like the name." From the Review:Sum Poosie's carbonated berry flavor, which was one of the few positives of the original, is still something that is enjoyable.
That sounds fair to me. It actually sounds like a positive. However, if the marketing of a product was purely on the taste then why do we spend so much time in packaging, graphics, and marketing?

Most people who have tried your drink say it taste good, as a matter of fact it taste better than RB. But remeber, packaging is more important than taste i.e. RB,Monster, Rockstar.

You state that SP isn't meant for mass distribution...then why did you waste time getting it in WalGreens? HUH???

Why don't you take some of the constructive criticism and learn from it. Great Taste, bad packaging. It seems to be a pattern about your product.


In another reply you said that it if someone makes the connection to sex when they look at your can that that is their interpretation. If that is so then maybe I got that idea from looking at Miss Gibson on the side of your can dressed scantily asking basicaly if I would like Sum Poosie?

Keep playing that it's "OK for Kids to see" that even though you maintain that it is an Adult Beverage angle. It might work for a certain demographic but it works less for the majority.


BTW, How did you get SP in WalGreens? Obviously Pay on Scan and you must charge them nothing for it.
In my experience, WalGreens is extremely conservative about the products they let enter their distribution stream.

Ron Swedelson
07-17-2006, 01:18 PM
It really depends on Walgreens, and they are changing things and making it harder now. Back in the late 90's, I had Jones Soda and other energy drinks in Walgreens because store managers had the ability to bring in something that they wanted. It is much harder today to get into a store without district approval. I wonder if SP got in district, or chain wide, or if some store managers brought it in because they think it will sell.

SumPoosieCat
07-17-2006, 04:16 PM
Lol... Ron, I wonder if everyone would be soooo offended if I just put "cat" in.

SumPoosie cat Energy Drink ! Let's see ... who's offended now ???

greg
07-17-2006, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Lol... Ron, I wonder if everyone would be soooo offended if I just put "cat" in.

SumPoosie cat Energy Drink ! Let's see ... who's offended now ??? Still doesn't get it!

SumPoosieCat
07-17-2006, 05:28 PM
? Poosie cat offends you greg?

SumPoosie cat Energy Drink AND I take the girl off the can.... what is to offend anyone now???

SumPoosieCat
07-17-2006, 05:36 PM
Greg... kids do not turn the logo into something sexual it is adults that do that. We have kids smoking, doing drugs, and dropping out of High School at a record rate and SumPoosie Energy Drink is adding to the decay? Sounds kinda silly. I did not waste anytime getting into Walgreens... my distributor did.

I believe all energy drinks are for adults and I never wanted SumPoosie sold in Walmart, Costco, or Sam's Club... even if they wanted it bad the answer would be no. There has to be a cool factor with a product in my opinion. Selling out to Walmart right or wrong to me just isn't cool. ;)

greg
07-17-2006, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Greg... kids do not turn the logo into something sexual it is adults that do that. We have kids smoking, doing drugs, and dropping out of High School at a record rate and SumPoosie Energy Drink is adding to the decay? Sounds kinda silly. I did not waste anytime getting into Walgreens... my distributor did.

I believe all energy drinks are for adults and I never wanted SumPoosie sold in Walmart, Costco, or Sam's Club... even if they wanted it bad the answer would be no. There has to be a cool factor with a product in my opinion. Selling out to Walmart right or wrong to me just isn't cool. ;) Well If your whole intent is to be on the "cool" side of the busines and the fringe then I guess you have succeeded. With a name like Sum Poosie you will never be mainstream therefore causing me to wonder why the hel you give a dam about what BevNet thinks or says about your drinks!
Bevnet is a website dedicated to the Beverage industry as a whole. That encompasses, in my view, the mainstream mass market, considering that most if not all business people like to make the most money by getting their product in as many hands as possible.

Man Up and accept the fact that bevnet gave you a review that you didn't agree with based on the name of your product. It's not like they said your product tastes like dog squeeze! The name is easy to remedy at this stage and I bet with your flavor system you could make some really inroads into the mass market, that is, if you widh to go that route!

johnnyrockets
07-17-2006, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
By the way johnnyrockets... FOR THE RECORD !

I did invent, develop, and market a product for children that is currently sold across America and in 7 different countries. I also hold the patents and trademarks. So... I believe I have made my contribution to children around the world ....how about you?

Take a look ! www.2cleanhands.org (http://www.2cleanhands.org) Yuck that's an icky thought. Someone invents Sum Poosie AND a product for kids...that's sick.
And if you don't understand why, it doesn't surprise me.

What about me?? Since you asked, I'll tell you about me...I haven't developed a low class energy drink like you and I have donated over $100,000 in the past 5-6 years to various children's charities in Brasil & Africa. That's what I do for kids

[ 07-17-2006, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: johnnyrockets ]

johnnyrockets
07-17-2006, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by greg:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Greg... kids do not turn the logo into something sexual it is adults that do that. We have kids smoking, doing drugs, and dropping out of High School at a record rate and SumPoosie Energy Drink is adding to the decay? Sounds kinda silly. I did not waste anytime getting into Walgreens... my distributor did.

I believe all energy drinks are for adults and I never wanted SumPoosie sold in Walmart, Costco, or Sam's Club... even if they wanted it bad the answer would be no. There has to be a cool factor with a product in my opinion. Selling out to Walmart right or wrong to me just isn't cool. ;) Well If your whole intent is to be on the "cool" side of the busines and the fringe then I guess you have succeeded. With a name like Sum Poosie you will never be mainstream therefore causing me to wonder why the hel you give a dam about what BevNet thinks or says about your drinks!
Bevnet is a website dedicated to the Beverage industry as a whole. That encompasses, in my view, the mainstream mass market, considering that most if not all business people like to make the most money by getting their product in as many hands as possible.

Man Up and accept the fact that bevnet gave you a review that you didn't agree with based on the name of your product. It's not like they said your product tastes like dog squeeze! The name is easy to remedy at this stage and I bet with your flavor system you could make some really inroads into the mass market, that is, if you widh to go that route! </font>[/QUOTE]right on, man

BevNET
07-17-2006, 10:46 PM
This thread is never going to end.

So you believe that Coke and Pepsi are all about taste (which probably explains why they spends hundreds of millions of $$$ in marketing and never mention taste!) and that our review was unfair since Sum Poosie tastes good (which was cited, fwiw!). Going to go out on a limb here, but it sounds like you need to learn a thing or two about BRANDING and the power of it relative to major consumer products. You are foolish to think that it has no impact on the purchase decision....If that were the case, why do all these products have brands in the first place?? Why not just put them in blank bottles/cans with stick on labels? Come on!

In the case of Sum Poosie, you have a brand that's not mainstream, which is due in part to the choice of name. It's not that we're offended by the name, it's honestly just that we believe that SP's sexual innuendo creates a product that is unappetizing...Most people won't want to put things in theor mouth that -- whether intended or not (we won't debate that) -- have a strong sexual image.

Again, it has nothing to do with being offended, it has to do with the fact that this is ultimately an edible item that one consumes and puts in their mouth.

Finally, you can't change people's opinions about your product. You disagree with ours and that's fine. However, to call it unfair because you wanted a review that was based on your own rules and criteria...now that's unfair to everyone else who we've ever reviewed.

This is where it ends...This topic is being closed. Nothing else to say.