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drpep
12-08-2003, 12:10 PM
What an F'ing joke. Its all a giant scam. A free sample costs $9.99 and comes with 2 CDs of some skanks. If you fail to read the fine print you are charged $19.99 every month for another signed bottle delivered to your mailbox. There is very little about the beverage itself on the site, mostly about the broads and trying to scam you into the "free" sample offer.
When I left the library I had to head home to shower before finishing the days errands.

[ 12-08-2003, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: dr pepperman ]

johnnyrockets
12-08-2003, 06:48 PM
As the old year comes to a close and the New Year is right around the corner, my prediction is that Drayton will start selling Illustrated XXX Playing Cards or Naked Bobble Head dolls under the company name "Sum Floosie"

He will try to distribute them in nationwide Toys-R-Us stores and be sued by concerned parents everywhere. He loves to ruffle feathers - what a joker!!

By The way, I wonder what the Sum Poosie"Models" get paid for their likenesses being used to promote this drink? Hmmm.....let me guess....maybe a limo ride around Cincinnati with Drayton himslef and a chance to appear live onstage at one of Drayton's clubs...oh God - the chance of a lifetime!!! What lucky girls.

Oh yeah - and a lifetime supply of Sum Poosie. Just what anyone would want! :D

[ 12-08-2003, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: johnnyrockets ]

Shatter
12-09-2003, 01:57 AM
A lifetime supply of Sumpoosie? That doesn't mean the lifetime of the winner, that means the lifetime of the Sumpoosie company. That'll only be something like two, maybe three years, so it's no big deal.

johnnyrockets
12-09-2003, 12:49 PM
That long, huh? :D

Energydude
12-09-2003, 07:07 PM
Wow, sounds like a lot of jealous people to me!
I think the new bottle models look great and my customers can't wait to add them to their collection. I met Lauren Hill last week and she is stunning. I understand the girls are doing a calender shoot in Hawaii in March. By the way I think the site is cool... tongue.gif

<RB1>
12-11-2003, 12:31 AM
You mean you're customer can't wait to add it to the collection. Family members don't count dude.

Energydude
12-11-2003, 07:35 AM
Well... I take 2800 cases and month and so does Texas and Florida. California and Arizona about half of that along with New York and Pennsylvania just starting this month along with Georgia. I would say there is nothing quite like selling SumPoosie.... ;)

cph
12-13-2003, 12:49 AM
Well... I take 2800 cases and month and so does Texas and Florida That might be, but....

Is anyone other than strip bars and such selling this drink? I can't really see "mainstream" grocery stores and restaurants going for it because of the name....

Maybe a liquor store might take it, or perhaps even a college store (assuming that the local Women's Lib chapter doesn't jump down your throat with both Birkenstocks because of the name!)

Energydude
12-13-2003, 03:39 AM
Well let's see..... strip clubs, night clubs, liquor stores, college stores....hmmmmmm sounds like thousands of outlets nationwide! The drink is not made for nor do we ever want to see it in a grocery store or Sam's club. The product is not made to be sold everywhere, just as condoms are not sold in toy stores. Check out the new bottle models on our site... they are simply out of this world! :eek: :eek: :eek:

cph
12-13-2003, 12:28 PM
Well let's see..... strip clubs, night clubs, liquor stores, college storesOK, but I still think you'll get into trouble at college with the "too-PC-to-be-real" crowd there....

How about truck stops? Some of them sell more than "just condoms" in the restrooms, if you get my drift....they might welcome your drink.

Energydude
12-13-2003, 01:12 PM
CPH ..... do you live in a hole? Welcome to 2004!!! Convenient Stores sell rolling papers, speed, liquor, and porn and you think people are worried about SumPoosie??? The point is there are plenty of outlets as I named before and we just want to be sold where liquor is sold. That is more than enough for us distributors to handle.
;)

cph
12-13-2003, 11:44 PM
Speed? Hell, some liquor stores have been known to sell weed and even crack....until the police get to them.

Now, would some people be up in arms about your drink once they found out about it. Certanly. Look at all the brouhaha about "Pimp Juice"....some local politician was making a lot of noise about it. "We must get this drink off store shelves". Why ask why....this is what politicians and bored-housewife groups *do*.

But whatever...it's not something *I* personally get involved in anyway.

Energydude
12-14-2003, 11:43 AM
For every complaint I hear I get 100 positive comments. I will take those numbers anytime. SumPoosie is clever in its marketing but the facts are the product itself looks better, taste better, and mixes better than any energy drink I have ever tried. The website just added the bottle models of 2004 and after Jan. 1, 2004 you will be able to order SumPoosie hats, shorts, Tshirts, and SumPoosie panties online. :D

<WHITEY>
12-31-2003, 08:30 AM
Would you guys shut up? Especially ENERGYDUDE because you sound like you want sales.

onenudedude
12-31-2003, 11:40 AM
Show me a positive comment on this board.

Energydude
01-01-2004, 03:57 AM
I have a lot of positive things to say but I wish others would do the same. It would be nice to hear what real pros have to say.

<boston braves>
01-07-2004, 02:14 AM
energy dude.....I am speaking for EVERYONE that comes across these boards

EVERYONE PLEASE REPLY WITH A "HELL YA"

please stop with the sales pitches here. I would hope you spend as much time on the streets as you do here...time mgmt pal...
Oh if your lack of reading everyones request to SHUTUP is like how you pitch your product you could use a course in SALES 101 - shut your mouth and listen to your customer!!

please dont reply with another defensive crying act!

Energydude
01-07-2004, 11:49 AM
Sounds like you need SumPoosie!!! I am on this board commenting on what I believe in and what I have seen being in the beverage business for more than 20 years. I can speak on a multitude of subjects but have focused lately on an market that is growing and very interesting.... The energy drink market!!! Take a look at www.sumpoosie.com (http://www.sumpoosie.com) and relax a little, the is nothing wrong with discussing SumPoosie! :D

<boston braves>
01-07-2004, 12:30 PM
Sounds like you need SumPoosie!!! I am on this board commenting on what I believe in and what I have seen being in the beverage business for more than 20 years. I can speak on a multitude of subjects but have focused lately on an market that is growing and very interesting.... The energy drink market!!! Take a look at www.sumpoosie.com (http://www.sumpoosie.com) and relax a little, the is nothing wrong with discussing SumPoosie!

Why does it sound like I need sumpoosie? Will it make me unaware/immune of your cheap sales tactics?
20 yrs? I would think that many years you would be in a better position and a more recognized company.
Lastly, you dont discuss sumpoosie, you are trying to push it here on us.

Coco Rico
01-07-2004, 08:30 PM
Energydude,

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You said you have 20 years in the beverage industry, and I can respect that. Given that experience, what is your honest opinion on the current state of affairs in the energy drink category? Not particularly as it relates to Sum Poosie or even Red Bull for that matter. But what is your take on the direction the category is taking? Is 16oz where it's at? Is it glass bottles? How much longer do you think the category will continue growing? And what do you think will be the next big beverage idea to replace the current energy drink craze?

I am honestly interested in hearing what you have to say. It is obvious to everyone here that you have a unique perspective on things, so I'd like to get your take on these questions. I am genuinely offering you the opportunity to begin the productive dialogue you claim is lacking.

CR

Energydude
01-08-2004, 11:18 AM
Coco Rico,

I am glad you asked! I think the energy category is still in its infancy. I think there is a lot more room for growth but many energy brands have failed to romance the youth in the market place who are tired of Coke and Pepsi. Like I have said before my Grandparents drank Coke, My parents Pepsi. I think there is room for a third Cola and I expect it soon. I think a 16oz. can is too big and an 8oz. can is for women. Look for a new Energy Drink to come out Soon in 12oz. Can, Sugar Free, Calorie Free. I got some samples a week ago from Hollywood Beach Beverages out of Florida and the product is amazing. The can is also very cool and I hope they will let me distribute the product, I understand it comes out in two or three weeks. Look for a sugar free Cola with vitamins I think children deserve better than the same old coke and pepsi. ;)

Energydude
01-08-2004, 11:28 AM
boston braves.....

Get a clue will you please. Have you seen a lot of the post on this board lately? Tell me about all the very interesting posting going on..... I speak about and talk about SumPoosie because it is the hottest thing going on in the energy market. It is growing and doing extremely well and I am excited. If you know of some other hot selling interesting products that are new and refreshing bring it on ..... Let us all in on it!
SumPoosie has the new Bottle Models for 2004 coming out I have met a few of them and I find it interesting and exciting. If you have something better bring it up or shut up. tongue.gif

ichiro
01-08-2004, 11:49 AM
met a few of the bottle models. I bet you did find it "exciting"...haha, what a joke...no shortage of hot air in here.

<boston braves>
01-09-2004, 01:26 AM
energydude,

you asked and I will deliver....the energy drink cat. is becoming stagnent, mainly due to RED BULL dominating and all you other lil' guys killing each other just for a small piece of the pie...
eventually someone will realize to combine some "ok" players in the market and try to compete w/ RED BULL....ya know "UNITED WE STAND ...DIVIDED WE FALL"....but accutally the human race WILL NEVER realize that....we are creatures to want to destroy each other.
So energydude ...just sit back in you lil office and type away on how good you product is and how bad others are ..... then we will see where you will be in a year.
word to the wise, keep your resume updated if you are selling an energy drink caus eyou will have to use it sooner than you think!!

Energydude
01-09-2004, 02:23 AM
Red Bull is a foriegn product from Austria and it is not very good either. Things go in and out and Red Bull was cool in the 90's but it is now 2004 and people are looking for something better. Red Bull is not a very manly drink and it just plain taste bad. McDonalds sells the most burgers but are they the best? Their market share is 56% do you think it is always going to stay there? New brands will continue to come into the market and I can promise you SumPoosie is not going anywhere because Poosie never goes out of style.....never! I sell 2500 cases a month of SumPoosie and could not be happier, am I ever going to take over RB I doubt it but I don't have to pay thousands of dollars like RB does to keep others out. I smell unfair trade practices... paying clubs to be exclusive.....not nice and probably not legal. tongue.gif

Ron Swedelson
01-09-2004, 03:09 PM
Whoah, first time I ever saw you type that you will not take over Red Bull. We can all say that Red Bull tastes bad or good or whatever. But product wise, it is a very good product that does work. Red Bull may not be as hot as in the 90's, but they continue to increase their sales, I believe over 1,000,000 cases monthly in the US alone. I don't know anyone who honestly would turn down Red Bulls numbers or their revenue, and would gladly enjoy their 70% market share and the thousands of dollars paid out for exclusive contracts. By the way, I still hate Red Bull, just can't ignore the numbers.

Energydude
01-10-2004, 12:30 AM
The Slinky and the Hoola Hoop used to be the best selling toys too. Things change, RB has helped define a market but sooner or later taste will matter. smile.gif

Ron Swedelson
01-10-2004, 01:05 AM
I would think taste would matter, but it is amazing that Red Bull commands such a high market share. I have never seen something like that anywere else. Coke, Pepsi, McDonnalds, no one can claim that. But I do agree, Red Bull tastes like crap.

Energydude
01-10-2004, 02:32 AM
Its called Microsoft and RB does a lot of the same things to keep out competition. I am just shocked that bar owners let RB tell them what to do for a few thousand bucks. It makes no sense at all most people do not like RB.

Red Sox fan
01-10-2004, 03:05 PM
I do not think its constructive to whine about the taste of Red Bull or its unfair trade practices (exclusivity contracts). As a competitor of Red bull in the on-premise arena I have never had a bar owner tell me that the reason they carry RB is becuase they love the taste of it. The carry RB because it is now a brand name that is now synonomous with energy drinks. Just as Kleenex is to tissues and Band Aid is to bandages. Being one of the first to market helps, but one can not ignore the remarkable job RB did of marketing and branding their product. It takes discipline, vision and forsight to build a brand like a Red Bull. It takes a commitment to building something great, not necessarily building something to make a quick profit. Not to pick on one company but how much did Sumpoosie spend as a percentage of its profits last month on marketing such as advertising and promotions? How much free product did you give away? I ask these questions not to get answers but to make the point that most companies in this category are usually content with mediocrity. Their thinking is If they can make a couple million early, get thier money back fast, then they are satisfied. And if for some reason the product really catches on, even better! There is nothing wrong with this approach necessarily and not every company has to be the next Microdoft or RB to be considered successful. However, if you want to be the next RB it requires an investment in one's company. It means taking siginificantly less profit for the first 3-7 years and instead pouring that money into branding activities. CReating a better tasting, sexier, larger product is all well and good and may help you to distiguish yourself somewhat from the other medicore selling energy drinks out there. But please do not expect it to make you the next big thing. No one understands this idea better than Red Bull itself.

Energydude
01-10-2004, 05:38 PM
Just like Wendy's has positioned themselves as an alternative to McDonalds I see SumPoosie the same way. RB has been in the USA for 7 years. SumPoosie just celebrated year 1. RB has done a great job in such a short time but I think you will see a change in the years ahead. In a few short weeks sumpoosie.com will have a complete clothing line for sale and my girls wear the tops all the time. I see great potential with SumPoosie as a drink and as a brand. :D

<boston braves>
01-10-2004, 05:43 PM
Red Sox Fan ..... you are so CORRECT. Unfortunatley energydude WILL take a defensive stand to your great comments, and analigies.
I did work for RED BULL and they do spend alot to be able to make alot, as is with my current company.
It is a shame that there are good drinks out there with that "QUICK BUCK" mentality as well as the "Big Bad Bull" is keeping me down attitude.
I for one WOULD like to know what sumpoosie does for marketing (besides write on this board), how much free product they give away. (not sell with DVDs)
Next to last note....I want energdude to explain to me why he limits himself on the demographics of consumers? i.e. he could NEVER go to the local little league baseball league and sell it into the concessions, nor could he attempt to go into a gay male bar, which by the way do awesome w/RB, or even main stream off premise accounts. It just doesnt make sense.
LAST NOTE....GO RED SOXS!!! "who needs ARod when ya got NOMAH"!!!!

Energydude
01-10-2004, 06:45 PM
Boston I can answer that question. I distribute 11 products but I can elaborate. SumPoosie is made to be sold where liquor is sold. Nightclubs, Bars, Liquor Stores, or Convenience Stores are all great places for SumPoosie. Look at it this way the invention of the bra discounted half of the world's population. Just like the bra is not for everyone neither is SumPoosie.... no drink is except maybe water. My point is RB may be the biggest seller but many times I have to let people try SumPoosie because they tried RB and can't understand why anyone would put that nasty stuff in their mouth. RB really became successful because drinkers found that they could drink even more with it, not because of great advertising, promotion, or great taste. City by city SumPoosie is taking hold more and more distributors are adding the line each month. Think of all the things you have ever sold..... Is there anything easier than SumPoosie??? :D

Ron Swedelson
01-12-2004, 01:42 PM
Promotion and advertising helped Red Bull sell more. On premise is only about 10% of Red Bulls total numbers (unless someone can correct me on the number). When Red Bull came out, the Red Bull girls would go out and sample all around a store, and then tell everyone were to buy it. Their radio and tv ads, as stupid and anoying as they are, they don't discriminate against any sex or age or race. I would love for a product to come along and dethrown Red Bull, but who out there can really ever come close to their numbers.

Ron Swedelson
01-12-2004, 10:41 PM
I tried Sum Poosie today, and it wasnt bad, although it wasnt great. Kind of like 8 parts shirly temple, 1 part Red Bull, and 1 part something I can't put my finger on. It smells ok, kind of sweet though. Almost coton candy mixed with Pepto Bismol. I'm not a fan of fuji wrap so I don't like that package. Samle label without the wrap would be ok. I don't know if it was the B vitamins or the taurine but it still had a taste of an energy drink. Honest opinion,
Taste = 7
Package = 4
Smell = 7
Energy = ? can't say, typing this as I try it
Thirst Quenching = 5

To back up Energydude, if you put Sum Poosie next to Red Bull, sure 9 out of 10 will say it tastes better. It has more of a flavorfull approach than most energy drinks. But I am not happy with packaging, and the name limits its marketability.

Energydude
01-13-2004, 12:16 AM
Well as I always say..... nothing is good or bad except by comparison. My point all along has been SumPoosie is much better than RB and 9 out of 10 do say SumPoosie taste better. You also get the right amount. 8oz. is never enough unless you are 8 years old. 16oz. is a bit much, 12oz. seems just right. When it is all said and done you get to keep a cool piece of art too. Collect all the "Bottle Models" the 2004 girls come out next month. Coming Soon...bottemodels.com Stats, bio's, etc... :D

Robot
01-13-2004, 02:27 PM
energy dude, can you read the message i posted saying "Hey Energydude" and respond?

thanks

<boston braves>
01-13-2004, 07:13 PM
energy dude!
When I sold RB the far majority drank the product for its effects....you have been on this board ranting and raving bout how your product tastes and the way it looks! nothing about the effects! NOTHING, ZERO, NADA! if you wanted to taste compete, I will bring a nice big cold glass of chocolate milk, of how bout a fresh squeezed glass of OJ!
My point is RB is comsumed for its effects first then its taste second. sumpoosie (according to you) is bought for its art, smell and taste. DOESNT SOUND LIKE AN ENERGY DRINK TO ME! neither is milk or OJ!

<In2beer>
01-13-2004, 07:33 PM
I don't mean to defend energyboy but I have had SumPoosie at a couple of clubs here in Atlanta and I can assure you it works. Maybe a little too well! I had two bottles with some Rain Vodka and had a hard time going to bed. To be honest I wasn't even tired it actually gave me a happy feeling. The taste is better than most but I can understand what you are saying boston packaging and taste is not everything. I can say SumPoosie gave me a jolt. smile.gif

Ron Swedelson
01-13-2004, 08:33 PM
I did not feel any effects from drinking Sum Poosie, but then again, caffiene is something I need to keep from withdrawls, not something that keeps me up or energized...kind of sucks that I can't get the effects anymore

drpep
01-13-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by &lt;In2beer&gt;:
I don't mean to defend energyboy but I have had SumPoosie at a couple of clubs here in Atlanta and I can assure you it works. Maybe a little too well! I had two bottles with some Rain Vodka and had a hard time going to bed. To be honest I wasn't even tired it actually gave me a happy feeling. The taste is better than most but I can understand what you are saying boston packaging and taste is not everything. I can say SumPoosie gave me a jolt. smile.gif You are only defending "energyboy" because you sell Think Pink and he sells Sumpoosie, which are related.

<boston braves>
01-13-2004, 11:58 PM
to bad I cant say if it gave me any kind of anything....I have NEVER seen it up here in NE.
So I have not tried to stuff....and I sure as hell aint paying for samples from the website!
Ill stick w/RB!

<In2beer>
01-14-2004, 12:42 AM
Sorry Dr. Peeperman we do not sell an Energy Drink we only distribute beer here. I did receive a sample of Think Pink Energy Drink in a 12oz. can and I just wanted to know if anyone is familiar with the company on the can. It says Hollywood Beach Beverages. The drink is good enough but I am afraid we just sell beer, sorry to tell you Dr. Peeperman. If anyone has any information please pass it along. smile.gif

toby1
01-14-2004, 11:08 AM
Hey in2beers...

what beers do you distribute?
where are you guys at?

Red Sox fan
01-14-2004, 05:49 PM
Boston brave,

Register on the site so I can email you. I am with an energy drink company in Boston as well. Thought we could talk off the general post about the local market.

toby1
01-15-2004, 03:45 PM
ok ok I have stopped with my alias. TOBY1 is really "boston brave".
Gimme a shout in2beers, would like to talk about the local mkt and the lines you carry.

toby1
01-15-2004, 03:46 PM
ditto go for you RED SOX FAN.

ciao for now

LadyRed
01-16-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Ron Swedelson:
I am not happy with packaging, and the name limits its marketability. yup. being a woman, you won't catch me buying it. of course i can't speak for *all* women... ( are there any other women on this board??) :D

Energydude
01-16-2004, 08:07 PM
LadyRed I guess the product is not for you but let me tell you all a few things. SumPoosie is not for everyone just like the thong is not for everyone. SumPoosie and the new Bottle Models are for males and females with a sense of humor.
It is simply great marketing, packaging and design. The taste is amazing and the rush is all energy! I hope all of you get a chance to come to the SumPoosie Party in Houston Superbowl weekend. The new Bottle Models will be there signing autographs and taking pictures. I will be taking video too. Get ready next week SumPoosie comes to NY!!!! :D

toby1
01-17-2004, 11:51 AM
when and where is this so called party? would like to be there and see what all your hype is about.
Is there invites?

Energydude
01-24-2004, 06:37 PM
Atleast you had SumPoosie Ron! Next time try it with a little Vodka! :D

Ron Swedelson
01-25-2004, 06:36 PM
might mix well. problem is I drank the only one I had. Have to wait till it arrives in Nor. CA.

Energydude
01-25-2004, 11:03 PM
I will make sure you get SumPoosie Ron! :D

cph
02-07-2004, 01:35 AM
I actually saw this drink for real, a couple of days ago at a lingerie store in Culver City, CA (along with "Sex Soda" and a lot of similar-type stuff....)

Energydude
02-10-2004, 01:35 AM
We only have a small distributor in the Orange County area. If we found a good liquor distributor for the rest of CA we would sell a lot of SumPoosie for sure!