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BigEnergyman
05-01-2006, 12:24 PM
Looking for serious investors for our e-drink .


WWW.RottEnergy.com (http://WWW.RottEnergy.com)

Please email Mguerra@rottenergy.com

Lepke
05-01-2006, 12:50 PM
I guess pit-bull was already taken.
The name is apropos; this drink will most likely rot on the shelves.

BigEnergyman
05-02-2006, 03:06 AM
Lepke ,

Thanks for the input , but just a little insight my sister is a well know celeb who is going to push my drink. So f-you ..

Mike G
WWW.ROTTENERGY.COM (http://WWW.ROTTENERGY.COM)
WWW.VIDASWORLD.COM (http://WWW.VIDASWORLD.COM)

reset man
05-02-2006, 08:18 AM
The packaging looks alright to me. If the product inside is as good I'll try it!

Lepke
05-02-2006, 10:11 AM
While Vida is a very pretty girl I think calling her a “well known celeb” is pushing it a little. She seems to be best known for a single very beautiful attribute. She is not yet a household name. At least not in English speaking America.

I do give you credit for not putting that lovely physical trait on the can. Although it might help sales.

There was no need to send me an unpleasant email just to tell me I would not be receiving samples of your product that I did not request.

Other drinks with bigger “names” behind them (no pun intended) haven’t really made it in the over crowded marketplace.

I do however wish you and Vida luck. It’s always nice to see people of humble roots; the children of immigrants escaping Castro’s Cuba make it.

BigEnergyman
05-02-2006, 12:20 PM
Joe ,

Email me @ mguerra@rottenergy.com so i can send you samples .

Mike G
WWW.ROTTENEGY.COM (http://WWW.ROTTENEGY.COM)
WWW.VIDASWORLD.COM (http://WWW.VIDASWORLD.COM)

DrPepperYummy
05-02-2006, 02:53 PM
Well lets be honest here if having a "well known celebrity" made an energy drink successful... we wouldn't have any of the ones we do on the shelf and we'd have nothing but the holloywood drinks there... chuck norris to 50 cent... I've never seen one in a grocery store ever.

and 2 cents more for free, how you treat and react to others talking about your product negatively, will determine some of your success... you can't just tell someone to shut up and they're stupid or missing the next best thing (we get 50 new ones every week that do nothing)... you have to take it, and then point out some features of your product even though you know they don't care... but you can't just tell someone they are stupid and act like this is 3rd grade recess.

Emaak
05-02-2006, 09:15 PM
DrPep are you serious?? this Lepke clown goes around inserting his 2 cents and delivering backhanded compliments constantly. in my opinion he should just shut up and go away! guys like this give us other Jersey guys a bad name. BigEnergy... i wish you luck!! i have a 15 machine vending route (4 of which are the much discussed on here RedBull machines) i'd be interested in possibly vending your product or pehaps be a distributor.

Mr Zabe
05-02-2006, 09:26 PM
How does calling a board mate a clown make you look? We all have our opinions. I do not agree with Lepke all the time yet I do respect his opinion. I'm getting tired of you telling us to shut up if we do not agree with you. IMO and my two cents as a board member in good standing. smile.gif

[ 05-02-2006, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

farah
05-03-2006, 01:00 AM
I have been visiting this board for months (all recenetly registered) but never really thought about posting anything because of all the nonsense posts, rude persons (such as this person lemke). This board would be a whole lot better if persons can be a little more professional.

BigEnergyman
05-03-2006, 02:56 AM
DrPepper,

My posting on Bevnet was looking for investor not for Lepke to put his 2 cents in. If i wanted his opion then i would have asked for it , again the posting was for investors. Yea some e-drinks dont sell , but i going into this with positive attitude that my drink will sell..

Mike G
WWW.ROTTENERGY.COM (http://WWW.ROTTENERGY.COM)
WWW.VIDASWORLD.COM (http://WWW.VIDASWORLD.COM)
ps.
By the way 50 cents drink is doing well and so is Nelly's pimp juice, so yea it does help to have a celeb help push my drink .

DudeMan
05-03-2006, 07:58 AM
I think the coming soon is page is cool and impactful.

Red Sox fan
05-03-2006, 10:21 AM
wait, hold on a sec..

First, "50 cents drink" is not an energy drink. He does have his name and likeness on a flavor of vitmamin water if that is what you are referring to. And yes, this does sell well but I don't know how much of it's success can be attributed directly to 50 cent. Vitamin water is a very good brand and any new flavor extension they came out with would have a moderate level of success by default. If 50 came out with his own e. drink without any established beverage company to co brand his product with it would likely fail miserably like every other celebrity driven drink ever created!

Now pimp juice is another story. Is it really doing "well"?? I guess it depends on your definition "well". If I was starting a company I would not aspire to their level of success.

Red Sox fan
05-03-2006, 10:25 AM
wait, I just went to the website www.vidasworld.com. (http://www.vidasworld.com.) I take it all back..I think you may have something here. Any chance you can introduce me to your sister? Hey, it was Worth a shot!

BigEnergyman
05-03-2006, 11:51 AM
Red Sox Fan ,

Well when my drink Launches she is going to be at the launch party and also at all the Bev and food expos. So just come down to the booth and met her.

Mike G
WWW.ROTTENERGY.COM (http://WWW.ROTTENERGY.COM)
WWW.VIDAWORLD.COM (http://WWW.VIDAWORLD.COM)

fusion
05-03-2006, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by BigEnergyman:
DrPepper,

My posting on Bevnet was looking for investor not for Lepke to put his 2 cents in. If i wanted his opion then i would have asked for it , again the posting was for investors. Yea some e-drinks dont sell , but i going into this with positive attitude that my drink will sell..

Keep in mind this is an open discussion board, so anything is fair game. If someone is going to be investing in a brand, they want to make sure they are investing in something that's going to succeed. And I think it is fair that anything posted here is up for discussion and/or debate - as long as we keep it clean (no personal attacks).

I think the name is kind of kitschy, and will appeal to a very limited audience. And having hot girls promote your product does not always equal success (which has been proven on this board before).

CStoreCatMan
05-03-2006, 04:29 PM
What you need to do is tell people WHY they should invest in your energy drink. What makes it different? How will it be distributed? What current deals do you have in place with any distributors or retailers? If you can't answer those things then...

A celeb backed energy drink = no big deal.
A hot girl backing an energy drink = no big deal.

There are 1000 new energy drinks created every month...what makes yours worth investing in? Its a hard sell to say "Give me money for my brand new and UNPROVEN energy drink that's going to enter the MOST OVERCROWDED beverage segment on earth. So far, all you've done is say "give me money" and "my sister is a hot celeb so my drink should sell." Unfortunately, that's not enough to convince someone to send you money up front and RISK losing their own hard earned cash.

[ 05-03-2006, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

mr jones
05-03-2006, 09:26 PM
You have to admit...the name "Rott" is going to invite jabs like "rotten energy" and the like. I'll invest in your sister's website and such before I would invest in another no name energy drink...just being honest.

Lepke
05-03-2006, 11:04 PM
http://www.bevnet.com/images/reviews/pitbull/pitbull-regular.jpg


I think it’s a rip off of a brand no one in their right mind would emulate.

I wouldn’t be surprised if hip-hop beverage corp. sues over trade dress infringement.


And look at the name ROTT Energy drink. ROTTENergy drink. It is like asking for it.

If this guy freaks out about criticism here on bevnet, how will he take being turned down in the business world?

Do you think he will tell the owner or buyer of a beverage distributorship “f-you”?

Here in New Jersey there are very few independent distributors and he pissed off this one.

[ 05-03-2006, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: Lepke ]

Super Jay
05-03-2006, 11:16 PM
well i ckecked out both websites you gave us about your sister. www.vidasworld.com (http://www.vidasworld.com) is great but www.vidaworld.com (http://www.vidaworld.com) is just a porn site and I didn't see your sister on it. Lepke does have a good point about Pit Bull and the dog breaking through the fence. But my guess is Hip Hop beverage probably went bankrupt from Pit Bull about a year ago.

Lepke
05-03-2006, 11:25 PM
They are still around Jay. They won a law suite a couple of years ago against another pit bull energy drink.
I think they will see ROTT ENergy as easy pickings.
When hip-hop beverage corp. sees this brand they will be seeing dollar signs.
Any investor would need to take that into consideration before throwing away their money.

The fact that this guy is looking HERE for investors tells me he would not have the resources to fight litigation.

[ 05-03-2006, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: Lepke ]

Super Jay
05-04-2006, 12:47 AM
Wow do they still sell Pit Bull in your area?

mr jones
05-04-2006, 12:53 AM
I laughed at Pit Bull when it came out...now we have a clone of that? Has it already come to this??

Lepke
05-04-2006, 09:52 AM
I haven’t seen pit bull around here for a while. I do see unsold product on shelves in some of my accounts. But it’s at least a year old.

Their website is still up and running. http://www.hiphopbev.com/ so I figure they are still out there somewhere.

Emaak
05-04-2006, 10:37 AM
Lepke, correct me if i'm wrong... but Rotts and pitbulls are 2 different breeds. they don't even resemble one another in name or physically. so, you tell me... what legal leg would hiphop bev. have to stand on?? dress infringment?? you haven't even seen a can of ROTT. do you just type and not think? you have opinions on everything man... i'll agree the market is saturated with a bunch of bull**** drinks. but your negative opinions and down talking have got to stop. i truely wonder if all of us here were sitting around a conference table, if you'd be so brave and opinionated?? "its always nice to see people of humble roots; the children of immigrants escaping castro's cuba make it" first of all that is a sentence full of gramatical errors; but i digress.... who are you to dare even touch that topic?? do you come from royalty bloodlines?? tell me lepke... do you actually work?? seems like you post here all times of the day... you're a blowhard, and once again you need to shut up! just some advice from one jersian to another.

the saint
05-04-2006, 04:23 PM
...never mind. carry on

[ 05-04-2006, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: the saint ]

reset man
05-04-2006, 07:36 PM
To me its what is in the can that matters. I couldn't be negative about something without even trying it. I doubt Lepke's anger/negative attitude belongs with Energyman but he seems to want to make him his target.

Lepke
05-04-2006, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Joe Louis Punch:
To me its what is in the can that matters. I couldn't be negative about something without even trying it. I doubt Lepke's anger/negative attitude belongs with Energyman but he seems to want to make him his target. Joe, I have nothing personal against this guy.
It’s about branding of the product and not so much about taste.
I don’t need to taste a brand to know it may not make it in the market.

The brand has a bad name. People will defiantly make wise cracks about it being “ROTTEN” it’s like wearing a sign that says “kick me”. As it sits on shelves people may say it is rotting on the shelves. In the beverage industry a brand that does not sell is called a “dog”. This looks like a rotten dog to me.

When you sell beverages you don’t have to like or drink the product you sell, you have to sell the product. Taste is in reality a very small part of marketing a brand.

Then there are other branding issues. The dog busting through the chain link fence is very similar to pit bull. It lacks originality. I’m sure hip-hop beverage will view it as an infringement on their packaging design.

I made a comment about the product rotting on the shelf and this guy swore at me here and sent me a nasty email. I think he is taking it personally.

I would prefer not to continue down this route as it is off topic and getting far too personal. I’m even hesitant about posting any further replies to this thread.

BevNET
05-04-2006, 09:40 PM
Alright, enough about Rott for now.

BigEnergyman is done for now. Time to cool off.