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rackitup
11-23-2006, 01:33 AM
I saw a rendering of a new Jeff Gordon Energy Drink today.

The 16oz. can had flames on the bottom of the can, and his #24 on it,
the can is in the color scheme of his #24 Dupont Nextel car.

I think it was by Amp.

Pibb
11-23-2006, 01:37 AM
not really a fan of jeff gordon, but im always up for trying new drinks.. unless they're diet.. i only made one exception there and that was for vault zero.

greg
11-23-2006, 09:48 AM
I'm guessing if it is from "AMP" that Pepsi is doing some cross promotional stuff with the Amp brand and the Pepsi brands. Funny that it is coming out after the end of the NASCAR season. I would susupect it would be a better roll out in February when the NASCAR Cup starts back up again.

the saint
11-23-2006, 10:14 AM
it is actually a 24 oz can, it isn't to be released until the daytona 500

Mr Zabe
11-23-2006, 02:52 PM
Just an FYI for all those who are NASCAR challenged; the Daytona 500 is the first race of the season. This race is concidered the grand daddy race of the season. It will be watched by millions on national TV. I'm sure Pepsi will have cool TV adds.

[ 11-23-2006, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

SumPoosieCat
11-23-2006, 05:41 PM
What a waste of time, energy and money.

the saint
11-23-2006, 07:34 PM
in reference to a drink by someone in the above post

ring ring...

(answers phone)hello?/

(caller) is this the kettle??

(answerer) yes

(caller) this is the pot, you're black

[ 11-23-2006, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: the saint ]

mofizz
11-24-2006, 09:39 AM
This product is a LTO (limited time offering) that will tie in the upcoming 2007 NASCAR season. I think this is a very worthwhile project for Pepsi just as the SoBe Superman was. I believe it is going to be in a 16oz can. Look for energy drink LTOs to become more mainstream as the category continues to grow.

NRgizR
11-24-2006, 10:13 AM
TTB,
Bitter.?.?.?.Table for 2.

CStoreCatMan
11-29-2006, 12:56 PM
Mofizz - the Jeff Gordon is confirmed to be a 24oz can....ummm hence Gordon's #24 on the can itself! Marketing at its finest! LOL.

CStoreCatMan
11-29-2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
What a waste of time, energy and money. Are you saying these HARDCORE NASCAR FANS are not a good target market for an energy drink? You must be kidding? This would be the bullseye.

Additionally, Pepsi has the Fontana Raceway in Southern California and gets EXCLUSIVITY during the races there. An energy drink based on one of the most popular drivers in Nascar will definitely do well with that crowd. We went through pallets and pallets of No Fear and Amp at the last race. A 24oz Gordon drink will blow out there.

fusion
11-29-2006, 01:44 PM
Blow, out there? Or, blow out, there?

;)

greg
11-29-2006, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by CStoreCatMan:
Mofizz - the Jeff Gordon is confirmed to be a 24oz can....ummm hence Gordon's #24 on the can itself! Marketing at its finest! LOL. So lets see.....Pepsi comes out with a 24 oz can ED. That will roughly translate to about 75mgs of caffiene, 3g of Taurine, 1g of D-Ribose, 750mgs of L-carnitine,300mgs of Inositol, and 150mgs of Gaurana an 75mgs of Ginseng.
ALL That plus about 96g of Sugar. Save this post and let me know how close I am.

CStoreCatMan
11-29-2006, 05:40 PM
Greg, those are pretty exact numbers you threw out there! I haven't had an actual can in my hands yet...once I do I'll check it out and let you know.

SumPoosieCat
11-29-2006, 05:41 PM
Nascar fans would be a great base... but not just fans of Jeff Gordan!!! That leaves out the other 90% that like another driver. This is another poor idea.

Mr Zabe
11-29-2006, 07:24 PM
I would guess that Pepsi would include it's other drivers in a simular promotion. I would also think that Pepsi would develop a "nascar" brand to meet the demand(if the Gordan ED) does well.

rackitup
11-29-2006, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Mr Zabe:
I would guess that Pepsi would include it's other drivers in a simular promotion. I would also think that Pepsi would develop a "nascar" brand to meet the demand(if the Gordan ED) does well. I am not sure Pepsi has many drivers.

I know Coke has Bill Elliott, Tony Stewart, Kurt bush, and Kevin Harvick, and som other guys too.

I am a Nascar fan, Jeff gordon has a pretty big following, BUT there are a lot of Nascar fans who can't stand him, now that he doesn't win as much as he used to some of the pressure is off, now a lot of fan's HATE Jimmy Jonson(I am not sure if he sponsors a drink, Jeff Gordon is His co owner).

Waite untill you see the can, it is verry colorfull.

CStoreCatMan
11-30-2006, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Nascar fans would be a great base... but not just fans of Jeff Gordan!!! That leaves out the other 90% that like another driver. This is another poor idea. Doesn't mean ONLY fans of Jeff Gordon will pick up this product. Also, guaranteed more than 10% of Nascar fans like him. I'm sure there will be plenty of novelty purchases by average Nascar fans to add to their memorabalia.

Question, does that mean only people that frequent bars or after hours clubs want SP? Same line of thinking...

SumPoosieCat
11-30-2006, 04:36 PM
I am giving my opinion... Sumpoosie Cat Energy Drink has been sold for nearly 4 years now. We will see how long Jeff Gordan Energy is sold....

CStoreCatMan
11-30-2006, 05:45 PM
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you TTB. I'm just saying that the idea of the Jeff Gordon e-drink isn't as bad as you made it out to be. We all have our opinions though so I can respect that.

Okay, Jeff Gordon e-drink won't be around for 4 years...in fact I think its an LTO. My point was I don't think its limited to only Gordon fans in the same way you don't feel your drink is limited to night clubs and the like.

What you have to remember is even if its only sold for a few months by Pepsi...it will end up in most c-stores, grocery stores, etc. with the support of a top-tier distribution network - nationally. There will be plenty of cases moving even if you don't think its a good idea.

the saint
11-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Even if only 50% of the accounts Pepsi services take2 one case of the product (which would be a failure in PBG eyes) it would still be 3 times what you have sold in all 4 of the years sumpoosie has been out.

SumPoosieCat
11-30-2006, 09:05 PM
I guess that is true Saint.... and your point is ... Pepsi has better distribution than SumPoosie does?

the saint
12-01-2006, 08:28 AM
"What a waste of time, energy and money."

"This is another poor idea."

"I am giving my opinion... Sumpoosie Cat Energy Drink has been sold for nearly 4 years now. We will see how long Jeff Gordan Energy is sold.... "

These are your quotes. You always want to bash anything that a mainstream company brings to the market. You act as though everything but your own beloved drink is junk.

I was merely making a comment that if it is a failure in PBG eyes it will still outsell all 4 years of your product. You said what a waste of time energy and money. wouldn't that be the case for your drink, if in fact JG ED is?

If it is a poor idea, yet it gains sales in 50% of the accounts in the US and your drink is in .00000005%, does that make your drink an even poorer idea??

Even if JG ED is sold for only 6 months, which btw is likely since it is an LTO, and it tanks, PBG has enough brains to kill it off and not keep trying to push it onto everyone, unlike sum people.

mofizz
12-01-2006, 09:49 AM
It is an LTO, just like SoBe Superman which did well and created MANY INCREMENTAL SALES DOLLARS.

CStoreCatMan
12-01-2006, 12:36 PM
Exactly.

Not every energy drink launch is about a share battle with the biggest guns. Its about new and incremental sales that were not there before. If its successful in doing that, it has done what Pepsi planned for it to do. Simple as that.

[ 12-01-2006, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

ALLPRO
12-01-2006, 08:20 PM
Where does Pepsi's (and for that matter Coke's) Energy Drinks rank in sales in the Country? Are any of them in the top 10?

SumPoosieCat
12-01-2006, 11:12 PM
Sometimes Saint... you just have no idea what you are talking about. Before you keep going check out our website www.sumpoosiecat.com (http://www.sumpoosiecat.com) and realize that SumPoosie is sold around the country in every Spencer Gift Store. My drink makes me and my staff a very good living and we really enjoy doing it. The fact is our product sells and sells very well.

I think we all get tired of silly attempts to bring out energy drinks that have no real chance for success. I made a comment and stand by it that Jeff Gordan Energy is not a good idea. I feel the same way about the Hulk Hogan stuff and the Steven Seagul stuff.

Say what you want about my drink it is very successful and sells very well. I also am very proud that I use high quality ingredients including REAL CANE SUGAR.

When a product is good.... like Jones Soda Blackberry Soda without sugar I say so... when a product seems to be made without thought... like the Red Bull 16 ounce can I say so.

If you think I am wrong and feel Jeff Gordan Energy is a great idea tell me why. If you want to discuss my energy drink on its merits let's go. But to bring the conversation to.. "Well they sell more so they are better" brings you down to a sophmoric level. I think you can do better.

the saint
12-02-2006, 08:11 AM
where exactly did I say the quote you are refering to??

I never said that JG was a great idea.

Ok I have went to your website, here is obviously one of the quotes from a consumer you are pleased with since it is proudly displayed front and center:

"I first heard of it through my father, he imports it to the Bahamas, and damn does it sell quick. Anyways With all the dance & strip clubs as well as tons of bars in Phoenix SumPoosie would be perfect. I try to spread the word about this product, cause its awesome.. and it tastes much better than that Bull sh!t!!!"
Sean - Phoenix, AZ

heres another:
"Aside from being a great beverage, the name just couldn't be any cooler! I love to see the look on people's faces when I ask for 'SumPoosie'. It's a great party drink and conversation maker plus the girls love it!"
Mike - Los Angeles, CA

Those are some quotes I would certainly be proud to display myself. I mean who doesn't think the name isn't cool, and I agree with the amount of strip clubs,dance clubs and bars in Phoenix it woud be perfect. I certainly think that it is awesome and much better than bull sht myself as well.

As far as EVERY spencer gift store, you may think that it is sold at all of them but believe me when I say it is NOT. There is a Spencers less than 5 miles from my house, I make a point to go in there every time I visit the mall just to look for your drink.

I do have one question on your high quality ingredients, You always say it has PURE CANE SUGAR, like that is a godsend, why don't you also say that it has ace-k and sucralose in it as well? how about the Glucosamine Sulfate, it is a high quality ingredient isn't it? I mean heck the who cares if it only causes nausea, diarrhea and gastrointestinal upset as side effects, it helps with arthritis. Sodium Benzoate is a great one as well. you think just because it has cane sugar that it is all good for you.

You are the one showing your sophmoric level of posting. You have a negative remark on every single energy drink thread (IIRC) on here that isn't sumpoosie. Every idea is bad unless it comes from your head.


With that being said, I wish you and your companys 5 distributors the best of luck. I hope you sell a billion cases.

[ 12-02-2006, 08:31 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

SumPoosieCat
12-02-2006, 08:41 AM
Saint you are simply not informed...

If SumPoosie is not at YOUR Spencer Gift store its because it is sold out. Our product is in every store around the USA.

Secondly, I have stated several times on this site what I like and what I don't lik,e. Is there more to dislike out there than there is to like.... YES !

I am not a fan of HFCS so guess what... that leaves out most drinks made here in the USA. I ask all the time why companies use that garbage when everyone knows Pure Cane Sugar makes a better product.

I give credit when credit is due. Jones making soda with Real Sugar is great great news. And I happen to be a big fan of their sugar free Black Berry Soda. I also drink a sugar free Monster from time to time.

I am not simply a basher I post my opinions. Unfortunately there are way to many poor products out there made by people who could care less whether they are putting out a good product or not. Quality matters and as a fan of beverages and as an owner of a beverage company I would like to see others care about putting out a better product.

I stated that J Gordan Energy was a waste of time and money IMO.... you chose to be clever and post that I was calling the kettle black.

You didn't take the time to explain why it wasn't a waste of time and money you chose to compare its sales to mine. By the way I promise you Jeff Gordan Energy will not sell more cases than I have in the last 4 years. But more importantly SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink is not a waste of time or money. To be honest it is a great product that sells well and makes a very good living for me and my associates.

the saint
12-02-2006, 09:14 AM
Where exaclty should it be located, the store should have a planogram of where it is to be. I shall look for the empty space next time and a shelf tag. Surely I must have been looking in the wrong spot. I was under the impression that your drink would be next to the other food items in the store. Maybe it is next to the pocket poosies, sum poosie- pocket poosie, yeah that makes more sense for placement.

You said "I am not simply a basher I post my opinions. Unfortunately there are way to many poor products out there made by people who could care less whether they are putting out a good product or not. Quality matters and as a fan of beverages and as an owner of a beverage company I would like to see others care about putting out a better product." and I agree, there are way too many poor products, and there are too many people who don't care about quality. It is all about money.

Let me ask you this though, If you can produce something for 4-5 bucks and sell it for 30, why not? If you can also place one on the most popular and successful Nascar driver endorsement on that same product, why not? Isn't that what you do anyway, produce a product for 4-5 bucks and sell it for 30, and have some of the most successful pornstar, stripper, model, whatever you choose to call them on your product?

BTW, when did you change the name and include "cat" in the name? Are you trying to get ....(gasping)...more mainstream accounts??

mofizz
12-02-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by ALLPRO:
Where does Pepsi's (and for that matter Coke's) Energy Drinks rank in sales in the Country? Are any of them in the top 10? Pepsi's energy drinks as a whole are #3 behind Red Bull and Hansen Corp (Monster). I would guess this puts SoBe Adrenaline Rush and MD Amp in the top 10 nationwide. I don't know if SoBe No Fear would make it. Coke outpaced Pepsi in the energy category in 2006 but is still behind as far as I know.

rackitup
12-02-2006, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by mofizz:
Pepsi's energy drinks as a whole are #3 behind Red Bull and Hansen Corp (Monster). I would guess this puts SoBe Adrenaline Rush and MD Amp in the top 10 nationwide. I don't know if SoBe No Fear would make it. Coke outpaced Pepsi in the energy category in 2006 but is still behind as far as I know. [/QB]Mofizz,

Pepsi ED's are still ahead of Coke W/Rock Star?

SumPoosieCat
12-02-2006, 05:32 PM
To answer your question Saint yes... we are adding "Cat" so it is now SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink and in 2007 the models will no longer be on the can. "The cat is where its at" is our new motto. Too many people did not understand that Poosie is the "CATS NAME" and we want the focus to be on the fact we have a great tasting energy drink and a great brand. You will be able to go on the site and get our Poosie Cat Poster for Free starting next week. So instead of a girl on the can you just go to the site and order the poster for free... you just pay shipping and handling.

And to answer your question... why not produce a product for 4-5 bucks and sell it for 30?

The reason is simple we make a product that people consume... Why not make it a high quality product? It really does not cost that much more to make it right. I could make my product in Mexico or a number of other countries but I don't I make every effort to do business in the USA including my printing and POS I try to do it all right here in the USA. It matters to me.

Saint.... quality matters! Jones Soda got the message its just a matter of time before Coke and Pepsi do.

Mr Zabe
12-02-2006, 06:12 PM
TTB,
I wish you good luck with your new "direction".
I think your company will do well and expand.
Again good luck. smile.gif
Zabe

mofizz
12-04-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by rackitup:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mofizz:
Pepsi's energy drinks as a whole are #3 behind Red Bull and Hansen Corp (Monster). I would guess this puts SoBe Adrenaline Rush and MD Amp in the top 10 nationwide. I don't know if SoBe No Fear would make it. Coke outpaced Pepsi in the energy category in 2006 but is still behind as far as I know. Mofizz,

Pepsi ED's are still ahead of Coke W/Rock Star? [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]I honestly don't know. I know Coke is gaining faster than Pepsi in energy however.

NRGSLLR@
12-04-2006, 01:53 PM
TTB: We have had our differences on the name SP and I applaud your rebranding effort. If I can be of any assistance let me know.

CStoreCatMan
12-05-2006, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
By the way I promise you Jeff Gordan Energy will not sell more cases than I have in the last 4 years. I don't think you realize the power of a national distribution system coupled with relationships at every large retailer in the nation. How many cases have you sold? Do you have a number? If you are as confident as you seem, will you take the Pepsi challenge? LOL. I'll post the JG numbers at the end of the LTO and we can see which prevails. Pepsi's "bad idea and waste of time" or your kitty juice. What do you think!?!

Mr Zabe
12-05-2006, 10:05 PM
TTB...You fail to take into account the mega marketing power of NASCAR fans. A good deal of NASCAR fans live and die by their drivers and race results. These fans will support NASCAR. In other words at the shelf level, they will pick up the Gordon ED even though they my be a Jr fan and buy it just because it is related to NASCAR.

[ 12-05-2006, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

CStoreCatMan
12-06-2006, 11:43 AM
That's exactly the point I was making earlier in the thread. Whether or not they like JG...they LOVE Nascar and will buy it just to add to their Nascar stuff...

the saint
12-06-2006, 02:19 PM
I can see the re introduced 180 having a graphic update so the 8 appears in the same font as the 8 on jr's car, along with some Jr commercials in the near future.

David J.
12-06-2006, 02:23 PM
WELL, I am suprised it has taken this long for a Nascar themed energy drink...

SumPoosieCat
12-06-2006, 09:49 PM
NRGSLLR .... thank you ! I can always use all the help I can get. If you send me a email address I will send you the new can design for 2007. We believe it is one of the best can designs out there. By spring we will have a 16 ounce can, a 8 ounce can, and a 8 ounce sugar free can. All of them will be SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink. I have to say the sugar free is the best tasting beverage I have EVER had.

The cat is where its at !

Guys... I don't want to go down this road about who will sell more cases... blah blah blah.

Instead I will attempt to give you my reasons that the Jeff Gordan energy drink is a bad idea.
NASCAR is most popular in the Southern States. These states compared to the national average have low income and poor health and fitness. Energy Drinks are not cheap and I feel the response would be better putting Jeff on a can of beer.

CStoreCatMan
12-07-2006, 12:19 PM
All I know is whenever I go to a race at the Fontana Raceway here in SoCal - the place is PACKED. People bring their motorhomes and camp out for the weekend. The average race day begins at 7am and people don't leave until about 10pm. Nascar is big everywhere...not just in the South. It may be bigger there, but its definitely not limited to that geography.

Mr Zabe
12-07-2006, 12:30 PM
The NASCAR event at the Joliet track (1 hour from Chicago) is a huge all weekend event. The local area is swamped with campers and cars. This weekend is a "happening" all in itself. It sort reminds me of the Golden years of the early 1970's Grateful Dead shows. A magical event. smile.gif

[ 12-07-2006, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

CStoreCatMan
12-07-2006, 02:05 PM
The nice thing about the Fontana Raceway is that its exclusive to Pepsi. Therefore, whenever a race is happening, we get to fill the place with our products and only our products. We will sell the #$@! out of the Jeff Gordon energy there!!! I hope there is a race or two this summer while its out - we'll go through pallets of that stuff.

SumPoosieCat
12-07-2006, 05:06 PM
Like I said... NASCAR is "most" popular in the south Cstorecatman. There are many golf fans in Alaska but you can bet the PGA plans no events there anytime soon.

Mr Zabe
12-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Sorry but TTB but once again....LOL
NASCAR is just starting to expand across the country and to a few countries over seas. I think I heard that within 3-5 years NASCAR will have a substantial presence in Europe. Gosh how cool,I may be able to watch NASCAR races all weekend long. smile.gif

ALLPRO
12-07-2006, 07:41 PM
I just got a sample of "Turn Left" Energy Drink (Race Car Theme) from DC Brands.
It looks like DC Brands(Dickens Cider)decided to "pull out" and try something else....NASCAR
This thing was the biggest piece of crap I have seen in the category in a long time. I guess their strategy is to sell to the big box stores and clubs. Come to think of it, they actually might sell a few pallets. "One man's crap is another man's treasure"

-VV-
12-08-2006, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:

I am not simply a basher I post my opinions. Unfortunately there are way to many poor products out there made by people who could care less whether they are putting out a good product or not. So, I'm assuming you have tried Jeff Gordon energy drink and have found it to be an inferior product?

No?

Interesting.

-VV-
12-08-2006, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
By spring we will have a 16 ounce can, a 8 ounce can, and a 8 ounce sugar free can. All of them will be SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink. Aren't you the same TTB who has posted ad nauseum about how RB missed the boat on the 16oz, and how the 8oz is dying out? Interesting that you would choose to come out with an 8oz of your own. Good luck with that.

[ 12-08-2006, 01:47 AM: Message edited by: -VV- ]

mofizz
12-08-2006, 10:13 AM
Confirmed. Jeff Gordon Energy will be in a 16oz can, not the originally planned 24oz can.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 11:52 AM
VV ... I posted my reasons for believing Jeff Gordan Energy to be a bad idea. I have been to many many many NASCAR events and I can tell you from experience they sell more beer in an hour at these events than they will sell energy drinks all week.

Secondly, SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink is coming out in an 8 ounce can because our customers want it.... plain and simple.

CStoreCatMan
12-08-2006, 12:15 PM
That's such a poor point. So will any baseball game, concert, drag race, etc. So will every bar your precious SP is in...all of those places will sell far more alcohol. But that doesn't mean they won't also sell soda, energy, water, etc. This is like talking to a brick wall. You're right TTB, any and all future energy drink ideas are ridiculous and will never measure up to your drink. Glad we "finally" established your position. smile.gif

the saint
12-08-2006, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by mofizz:
Confirmed. Jeff Gordon Energy will be in a 16oz can, not the originally planned 24oz can. Same thing I was informed of today. Pepsi scrapped the 24 oz idea. Should be released around June instead of Feb. at least in my part of the country.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Its a poor point ??? What are you kidding? To be blunt ... the average NASCAR attendee could care less about energy drinks ... what don't you understand? Please do not try to make this about my drink... I think Monster and Rockstar have done a great job and like I have said many many times... I DRINK MONSTER SUGAR FREE its one of my favorites.

Its not about my drink being great and others are not... I am also a fan of REDLINE before a workout. There are a few really good drinks out there and way too many bad ones.

Another BAD idea is the new DAMZL energy drink for women... bad bad bad.

You don't have to agree with me but don't turn this into "Oh your right TTB only your brand is any good".

Another bad idea.... NASCAR golf balls.

Mr Zabe
12-08-2006, 02:38 PM
The world of the beverage industry (tastes,customer tastes, and market demand) are fluid. It takes one dynamic moment to create a "hit" with a captive audience. Ruling out this dynamic is akin to fishing with out bait. ;)

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 02:44 PM
Lol... if only that were true.

CStoreCatMan
12-08-2006, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Its a poor point ??? What are you kidding? To be blunt ... the average NASCAR attendee could care less about energy drinks ... what don't you understand? Okay then...do you have proof that Nascar fans DO NOT like energy drinks? Or is that your opinion or an observation? I have some facts that say they do.

The last race we had out at Fontana Raceway was back in Aug-Sep timeframe. I have mentioned before that Pepsi is exclusive at this track and during these events. The only energy drinks available for purchase were Pepsi's brands: No Fear (and its varieties) and AMP. And these are by no means the top selling energy drinks anywhere! I'll admit that. BUT, not only did we sell through ALL of the pallets of energy drinks that were delivered to the track, we had to make a special trip to our local market unit to get more. And this is despite there being tons of beer, soda, water, Gatorade, etc for sale as well. Nascar fans don't care about energy? I think you are mistaken. It may not be their first beverage choice, but they sure drank the heck out of them at the race!

So you can't see the connection between SPEED, RACING, COMPETITION and energy drinks? You need to get out of your box man!! Your views on the energy consumer are so narrow and its ironic because you have a product that's way out of the box. I don't get that at all!

[ 12-08-2006, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

Mr Zabe
12-08-2006, 03:30 PM
DITTO
Just a hunch....I bet that the various NASCAR race events have similar demand for non booze drinks. The number of minors and non booze drinking people when contrasted to the average length of a Bush/Nextel race makes for a long productive day for Coke and or Pepsi. (Add in a super hot race day and the number of drink sale go off the charts.)

Face it the race tracks have got you for a good part of the day. It's not like going to a 3hr baseball or football game. You go to NASCAR for the spectacle of the whole event.

[ 12-08-2006, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 03:35 PM
The first time I went to see a NASCAR race was the Daytona 500 in 1969. LeeRoy Yarbrough put a butt whippin on AJ Foyt and Richard Petty to take the flag! I have attended more than 50 races since then.

I find slapping Jeff Gordan on a can to be unimaginative and simplistic. It does not appear to me that much thought was put into appealing to true NASCAR fans. It just doesn't have a cool factor.

What product CSTORECAT man have you developed from scratch, marketed and promoted and sold for years throughout the country?

I started with an idea and developed a logo, a taste, packaging, marketing material and did it all myself. I spent hundreds of hours to make the very best tasting energy drink on the market.

Slapping Jeff Gordan on an Energy Drink can seems like a shameless short cut and IMO it is a poor idea... you would think a company that big with all its millions could do better. IMO

Mr Zabe
12-08-2006, 03:41 PM
IMO...creating a generic NASCAR brand/can would not do well. Young (not you or me LOL) fans are into race teams and drivers. I agree with CStoreCatMan. This will be one of a series of driver cans (same ED). Gordon is a very popular driver that has a good appeal to most NASCAR fans.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 03:51 PM
Generic NASCAR BRAND ? Stop Mr Zabe your killing me.

You guys have changed my mind... Jeff Gordan Energy Drink sounds great ! Wow... I can't wait to see it. Just one question... is it going to be cheaply made with HFCS?

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 04:08 PM
Yeah... go enjoy that Ed McMahon Vodka... since his picture is on the bottle I am sure it will sell better than those generic brands like Grey Goose and Vox. ;)

CStoreCatMan
12-08-2006, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:

What product CSTORECAT man have you developed from scratch, marketed and promoted and sold for years throughout the country?

I started with an idea and developed a logo, a taste, packaging, marketing material and did it all myself. I spent hundreds of hours to make the very best tasting energy drink on the market.

Slapping Jeff Gordan on an Energy Drink can seems like a shameless short cut and IMO it is a poor idea... you would think a company that big with all its millions could do better. IMO TTB - Here's the point you're missing. PEPSI DOESN'T HAVE TO DO BETTER! You have ONE product that will totally make or break your success. Pepsi has 400 beverages that contribute to the bottom line.

If Sum Poosie Cat doesn't sell - you are out of business and have to start looking for a new job or endeavor. If Jeff Gordon flops horribly, Pepsi loses a few drops in the bucket. It's not like we're counting on it to be the next big thing. It will generate "incremental" sales - and guess what? That's all its meant to do! Nobody said it would steal market share or become the next big brand of e-drink. Nobody said it would compete with RB or Monster.

So I guarantee you the the Jeff Gordon energy drink will perform exactly the way Pepsi expects it to - which means a few more sales and a little more money in the bank. And it really is that simple.

the saint
12-08-2006, 06:54 PM
TTB you STILL have not answered my questions,


Originally posted by the saint:



I do have one question on your high quality ingredients, You always say it has PURE CANE SUGAR, like that is a godsend, why don't you also say that it has ace-k and sucralose in it as well? how about the Glucosamine Sulfate, it is a high quality ingredient isn't it? I mean heck the who cares if it only causes nausea, diarrhea and gastrointestinal upset as side effects, it helps with arthritis. Sodium Benzoate is a great one as well. you think just because it has cane sugar that it is all good for you.

[ 12-08-2006, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: the saint ]

fusion
12-08-2006, 06:57 PM
Saint - same song, second verse. I don't even know why people get into debates/discussions with him anymore.

CStoreCatMan
12-08-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:

I find slapping Jeff Gordan on a can to be unimaginative and simplistic. It does not appear to me that much thought was put into appealing to true NASCAR fans. It just doesn't have a cool factor.
You're right. That's why Jeff Gordon's picture DOES NOT appear on the can. Nor is there a picture of his race car. Would you like to share any more of your unimaginative assumptions?

[ 12-08-2006, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

CStoreCatMan
12-08-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by fusion:
Saint - same song, second verse. I don't even know why people get into debates/discussions with him anymore. Because in some respects...its kind of entertaining!

stinkfinger
12-08-2006, 08:07 PM
What a wonderful way to kill time while the laundry drys. One ignorant fool vs. a bunch of knowledgeable folks.
I hate energy drinks, I am not a Jeff Gordon (notice the spelling Blondie, GordOn not GordAn) fan but I will plunk down $2 to have a can in my meeger beverage collection as will thousands of Nascar fans, the same fans who will by Wheaties boxes with Richard Petty, Kelloggs Frosted Flakes boxes with Kurt Busch,Little Debbie boxes with Ken Schrader Bud cans with Dale Earnhardt Jr, Sue Bee Honey bottles with Kyle Petty, Cheerios boxes with Bill Lester, Hostess boxes with Danica Patrick, plastic Burger King cups with Bill Elliot's car, etc,etc,etc. I know I've bought some of the above mentioned crap. I've seen the collections in Nascar collectible magazines. I've seen the collections on Nascar fan sites. IT WILL SELL.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 08:10 PM
Cstorecatman..... ummmm that's my point! They don't have to do better and IMO they did not when they decided on a Jeff Gordan Energy Drink. I just think its a bad idea marketing a product to people that in general are not interested in Energy Drinks.

Saint... What question would you like answered? And always remember nothing is good or bad except by comparison. Real Cane Sugar vs HFCS its not even close! Real Cane Sugar wins hands down.

Fusion... umm this board is FOR discussion and debate!

All I did was pick a side and express my opinion.
You don't have to share it.. but instead of attacks tell me WHY you think Jeff Gordan ED is a good idea. We all know how successful Pepsi has been at bringing out new energy drinks the last 5 years....

I have sold millions of cans and bottles all around the world. I know what it takes to create a brand from scratch and make it successful. My brand started on a bar napkin and continues to grow today.

It takes a lot to create and bring to market a successful brand. Companies with millions try all the time and consider 1 success out of 10 a good average.... just ask Pepsi.

Maybe if they cared more... or if it "mattered" more they would bring more good creative brands to market.

stinkfinger
12-08-2006, 08:11 PM
Oh what were you telling us several years ago about how great your drink was because it came in a big glass bottle and was made with real sugar unlike everything else. you know 8oz was for sissys all that jazz. if you stuff was so great to begin with why the need to change? And its not and never has been in the Spencers near me. EVER. I know. I look for it because I want to see this miracle item.

CStoreCatMan
12-08-2006, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Yeah... go enjoy that Ed McMahon Vodka... since his picture is on the bottle I am sure it will sell better than those generic brands like Grey Goose and Vox. ;) I'm sure that's why SUM POOSIE first came out without the "Cat" in the name or on the bottle. Instead it featured a scantily clad pin up girl and loudly proclaimed sexual innuendo. Sugar cane or not it was all about sales through shock value. Now, years later you're changing the name, the image, the package it comes in - ironically long after hearing all of those exact recommendations on this very board. Was the original concept something like "I'm sure if SP shows some p**** on the bottle, it will sell." Good luck to you sir.

[ 12-08-2006, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

stinkfinger
12-08-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
I just think its a bad idea marketing a product to people that in general are not interested in Energy Drinks.
Why has Red Bull invested millions in buying and owning a Formula One race team for the last 2 years?
Why has Red Bull invested millions in starting 2 Nascar teams in 2007?
Why does Red Bull sponsor a Baja 1000 team?
Why has Red Bull been involved in the Indy Racing League?
If race fans had no interest in energy drinks the would have pulled th plug. Its called marketing. Fans will not be able to avoid JG energy drink at Pepsi contracted tracks. C-stores around Nascar tracks will be overstocked with it. It will be seen and will be bought either as a refreshing drink or to be poured down the drain and kept as a collectible can, just like the Sumpoontang bottle.

[ 12-08-2006, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: stinkfinger ]

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 08:20 PM
First of all Stinkfinger I have no idea what you are talking about....8oz. for sissy's ??? What?

Second... SumPoosie is sold at every single Spencer Gift Store across the country... every single one. If for some reason they are sold out go to www.sumpoosiecat.com (http://www.sumpoosiecat.com) and we will be happy to help you.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 08:25 PM
I don't know why Red Bull does a lot of things.... I do know they continue to lose market share. The number 1 reason someone does "not" drink Red Bull is because of taste.
You would think these experts would come out with other more palletable flavors.

I thank Red Bull everyday for creating the market I now enjoy so much but to let it all slip away over the last 2 years just seems odd.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 08:51 PM
What's my market share? Lol... I can tell you this much my profit margin is a bit higher than ANY of the top 5 your talking about.

Do you have to have a certain market share to have an opinion?

the saint
12-08-2006, 10:13 PM
"Saint... What question would you like answered? And always remember nothing is good or bad except by comparison. Real Cane Sugar vs HFCS its not even close! Real Cane Sugar wins hands down."



Originally posted by the saint:
TTB you STILL have not answered my questions,

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by the saint:



I do have one question on your high quality ingredients, You always say it has PURE CANE SUGAR, like that is a godsend, why don't you also say that it has ace-k and sucralose in it as well? how about the Glucosamine Sulfate, it is a high quality ingredient isn't it? I mean heck the who cares if it only causes nausea, diarrhea and gastrointestinal upset as side effects, it helps with arthritis. Sodium Benzoate is a great one as well. you think just because it has cane sugar that it is all good for you. </font>[/QUOTE]The questions I would like answered are the groupings of words with this punctuation mark "?" behind them. No where in my post does it mention HFCS, now I am curious as to where that came from, are you energydude?

[ 12-09-2006, 01:56 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

the saint
12-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by fusion:
Saint - same song, second verse. I don't even know why people get into debates/discussions with him anymore. I am actually seeing how long it will take to get him to answer my simple questions. I know he more than likely will skirt around the issue the same as he did before when he logged in under energydude, that is if he is energydude. wink wink nod nod

[ 12-09-2006, 01:57 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

the saint
12-08-2006, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
What's my market share? Lol... I can tell you this much my profit margin is a bit higher than ANY of the top 5 your talking about.

Do you have to have a certain market share to have an opinion? I didn't know that you could put a higher profit margin in the bank. I always was under the impression that you had to put actual money into the bank.

Hell if this is the way of life, I have a chevy pickup that I will sell for $1,000,000. I have around $1000 in it so that means I have a high profit margin to go and put in the bank. It obviously doesn't matter if I actually get anyone to buy it, right?

[ 12-09-2006, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 10:27 PM
Lol... yes Saint energydude worked for me up until a couple of years ago.

And I guess you didn't know you can put a higher profit margin in the bank because you have never had your own beverage company. Profit goes into the bank very nicely.

To be honest the margin we make on apparel makes the trips to the bank more frequent.

the saint
12-08-2006, 10:38 PM
Yes "profit" goes into the bank, not "profit margin", but in order to have profit you have to sell product to make "profit"

And further more you know absolutly nothing about what I own. All you know is that I am a guy in "soda sales" and if you use a simple power of deduction you should be able to gather that my insurance is cheaper because I work for PBG, rather than buying for myself thru my own business ventures.
However I do not sit on a website harping about how much money that I make and how everyone else doesn't. and you STILL haven't answered my questions.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 10:44 PM
Lol... I sell plenty of product Saint. We have done very well over the last 4 years.

And I said nothing about how much I make or how little anyone else does.

AND you still have not told me what question you are talking about.

the saint
12-08-2006, 10:47 PM
here I shall put it one more time for you. look for these marks "?" anything before them would be a QUESTION.

I do have one question on your high quality ingredients, You always say it has PURE CANE SUGAR, like that is a godsend, why don't you also say that it has ace-k and sucralose in it as well? how about the Glucosamine Sulfate, it is a high quality ingredient isn't it? I mean heck the who cares if it only causes nausea, diarrhea and gastrointestinal upset as side effects, it helps with arthritis. Sodium Benzoate is a great one as well. you think just because it has cane sugar that it is all good for you.

SumPoosieCat
12-08-2006, 11:11 PM
I do not have ace-k or sucralose in my product. I use Pure Cane Sugar. And YES YES YES Pure Cane Sugar is MUCH BETTER than HFCS.

the saint
12-08-2006, 11:41 PM
When did you change the ingredients? ***THIS IS A QUESTION***

When I originally posted the question I copied the ingredient and then posted. Where else would I have gotten them from? I do not tend to talk out of my basement door.

[ 12-09-2006, 02:00 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 12:18 AM
Change ? The ingredients are right there on the website www.sumpoosiecat.com (http://www.sumpoosiecat.com)

I have used the same formula for 4 years!

I don't know how you made that mistake.

the saint
12-09-2006, 12:32 AM
Really I figured as much, I made a screenshot when I seen your ingredients, just for kicks and giggles because I knew you would do the same as your "employee" when asked. I will see if I can post it in a minute or so.
I am going to try and resize pic, I do not want the forum opage jacked up if not I will repost the same pic.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r73/sumpoosiesux/screenshot.jpg

[ 12-09-2006, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

Mr Zabe
12-09-2006, 12:38 AM
I would like to see that screen shot too. :D

the saint
12-09-2006, 01:01 AM
sorry for the big pic, I am not to keen on resizing pics.

TTB that was taken as a screen shot from your website on 12-01-06. I notice that as I looked today after your post the ingredients have changed.

rackitup
12-09-2006, 01:19 AM
Evidently the cans of SP sent to Bev Net for review had the ingredients that arn't really there too.

They also review the Bottle, and the ingredients are a lot differnt than in the new Can.

the saint
12-09-2006, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Change ? The ingredients are right there on the website www.sumpoosiecat.com (http://www.sumpoosiecat.com)

I have used the same formula for 4 years!

I don't know how you made that mistake. I suggest you look at the ingredients on the review for your quality beverage on this fine website as well. It seems there was corn syrup as well as sucralose and ace-k, it doesn't mention PURE CANE SUGAR as you claim as well as your website. BUt wait...you have used the same formula for what was it 4 years??

better yet here is a link to take you right to the page.

sumpoosie review page (http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/sumpoosie/facts.asp)

[ 12-09-2006, 01:40 AM: Message edited by: the saint ]

Mr Zabe
12-09-2006, 01:32 AM
I never heard of ingredients changing so drastically from bottle to can.

[ 12-09-2006, 01:59 AM: Message edited by: Mr Zabe ]

rackitup
12-09-2006, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Mr Zabe:
I never heard of ingredients changing so drastically from bottle to can. Hum....I think I smell a P&^#Y cat. LOLOLOL

Gosh hard drives can be so awesome. LOL You did smell a P&^#Y cat, you did smell a P&^3Y cat, LOL,LOL,LOL

POP
12-09-2006, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by rackitup:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Mr Zabe:
I never heard of ingredients changing so drastically from bottle to can. Hum....I think I smell a P&^#Y cat. LOLOLOL

Gosh hard drives can be so awesome. LOL You did smell a P&^#Y cat, you did smell a P&^3Y cat, LOL,LOL,LOL </font>[/QUOTE]No, I believe that stench was coming from the litterbox.

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 08:58 AM
Geezz Saint just read the can!!! Its not rocket science!

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 09:04 AM
By the way... no taurine in my product either!

the saint
12-09-2006, 09:08 AM
Well golly gee, there is an original idea. Wait I must need to be a rocket scientist because I am seeing something listed that you do not. Are you a rocket scientist, or just dyslexic? Maybe it is like selective hearing, you may have selective sight. Have you had your eyes checked recently? I had my eyes checked about 3 weeks ago, I know mine are good.

Where would I find one of these cans??? Oh yeah I can go to Spencers....again....to see that they do not carry it....no wait they are just sold out.

Luckily for me BEVNET read the can when they did the review of your product and posted the ingredients.

the saint
12-09-2006, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
By the way... no taurine in my product either! Is that, or is that not a screenshot of your website? Did BEVNET just make up the ingredient list??

BTW when the paint on the floor dries and you can walk out of the corner, no hard feelings. I hate having someone prove me wrong as well. It sure is fun doing it to someone else though.

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 09:28 AM
Wrong ? Lol... what am I wrong about Saint? Our new website has had quite a few things changed over the last 2 weeks, the site is only 3 weeks old. We are still going over it and fine tuning things when we catch mistakes we change them.

Like I said... its on the can Saint! What others report or say I have no control over.

I own and make this drink Saint I know what is in it. You want to look at some internet mistakes and play spy. The main thing is to get it right on the can and we do... take sum time to check that out.

The fact is we use Real Cane Sugar to make our product. I can't control what other people print. If we make a mistake we fix it.

Now if you were trying to prove we have made mistakes and had to correct them... gee Saint your right.

If your trying to prove our product is not made with real sugar geee your wrong saint!!!

If you want to see my sugar bill every month I will be glad to show it to you at .54 cents a pound. It cost me a lot of money to use the stuff but "How sweet it is" !!!! ;)

the saint
12-09-2006, 09:41 AM
I would love to continue this discussion at the present time, but life has gotten in the way this morning.

As far as a review being wrong, funny that it is just your product that had the ingredients listed wrong.

As far as checking out the can, see an above post I do not have time to keep writing it out, kind of like the questions you were asked. Maybe you should take the time to read the posts you are responding to rather than spouting off the first thing in the post and ignoring the rest of it.

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 09:48 AM
Seems like you want to beat a dead horse about the ingredients being listed wrong here or there.
Its correct on the can and it was corrected on our site over a week ago.

We do agree on one thing... its time to get on with you life.

rackitup
12-09-2006, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Seems like you want to beat a dead horse about the ingredients being listed wrong here or there.
Its correct on the can and it was corrected on our site over a week ago.

We do agree on one thing... its time to get on with you life. How about ingredients being listed wrong Everywhere?

Do you think by playing coy in answering simple questions that you can be soo creative with the facts/Lies?

Do you think that this controversy is making you a credible Beverage Manufacturer?

I know a little about content labeling and the first ingredient listed is the most, the second ingredient listed is the second most and so on.
Sugar is the 5th item listed, on you're new can.
How can that be if you use Cane Sugar only, (Ohh you never said you use cane sugar only).
Since the FACT is you use sugar,sucralose,and ace-k, why don't you say so?
What are you trying to hide?
You have asked soo manny times if your product used atrificial sweerners and EVERY time you have said NO "I use pure cane sugar wanna see my sugar bill?)

PS if you can't answer EVERY question I have raised here do not even bother, I am no Saint.

[ 12-09-2006, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: rackitup ]

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 01:54 PM
Huh? What? Lol... you got to be kidding!!!

Atttack attack attack !!! I use ONLY REAL CANE SUGAR in the making of SumPoosie.

We made sure to list it correctly on the can. I guess we should be as careful when we print it elsewhere.

Rackitup I am sure you are right...you know little about content labeling.

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 02:28 PM
Again... the point of this thread is the Jeff Gordan Energy Drink... which I simply said sounds like a bad idea. Its my opinion.

My energy drink is made with only Real Cane Sugar... not my opinion fact!

Many of you sell drinks made with HFCS. We all know why your company does that.... they do it because it cheapens the product.

If you want to argue HFCS vs. Real Sugar go ahead.

If you want to argue labeling mistakes have fun we are a small company of 6 people we make mistakes.

The facts are we do not use HFCS because we feel it is a poor cheap replacement for Real Sugar.

rackitup
12-09-2006, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:


My energy drink is made with only Real Cane Sugar... not my opinion fact.
I am not atacking you, I asked some honest questions and I would like some honest answers.

I personally think that the Bottle of you're product I drank was Outstanding.

In the interest of Public disclosure I asked you if you would like to warehouse some of you're product in my Warehouse in Southern California.

What is so hard to answer a simple question?

gregII

SumPoosieCat
12-09-2006, 05:09 PM
Fair enough...Its not hard but I have answered it many times... I make my product with Real Cane Sugar.

Like I said I pay .54 cents a pound to do it that way.

We make mistakes .... taurine is listed RIGHT NOW as an ingredient on our site.... our product does not contain any.

You would think it would be an easy thing but I can tell you... at times nothing is easy.

Spencer Gifts is keeping us pretty busy and our new apparel is selling like crazy. Nice problems to have but remember we are a small friendly company!
;)

CStoreCatMan
12-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
Again... the point of this thread is the Jeff Gordan Energy Drink... which I simply said sounds like a bad idea. Its my opinion.

My energy drink is made with only Real Cane Sugar... not my opinion fact!

Many of you sell drinks made with HFCS. We all know why your company does that.... they do it because it cheapens the product.
Happy Monday board! This statement made me laugh. So you're saying the big companies make drinks with HFCS to intentionally cheapen the product? You're a funny guy.

Try this on for size...These companies have to meet the kind of product demands you could not even fathom at this point in time. Therefore, using strictly cane sugar would be far too costly. Period. You are able to (no I don't need to see your sugar bill) because you're not having to produce even a fraction of what they do. Stop picking on the big companies...they compete in arenas you can't even buy a ticket for...

SumPoosieCat
12-11-2006, 12:36 PM
CStoreMan What ???

Is there a sugar shortage??? Lol... you could not be more wrong... they use HFCS for one reason and one reason only.... it is cheap and they are getting away with it!!!

Let me put it this way... find one person on this entire board that will say HFCS is as good or better to use in beverages than real sugar.
Just one....

CStoreCatMan
12-11-2006, 02:06 PM
I never said there was a shortage. And you're correct that HFCS is cheaper than sugar. But that's exactly why its used - its cost effective. TTB - you only have to produce ONE beverage product. The LARGE beverage companies have to produce a COUPLE HUNDRED different beverages in a variety of packages. This equates to BILLIONS and BILLIONS of bottles, cans, etc. Get off your cane sugar high horse and do the math.

CStoreCatMan
12-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Besides, how do you know how and why the large companies do what they do? Have you worked for one? Have you consulted for one? I don't think you know as much about the larger companies as you think you do. You just know that "sugar cane is better than HFCS" and that your product is superior because of it - according to YOU.

We've heard the same song and dance from you forever now. Do you have something NEW to talk about here? Please say you do, this is getting old.

POP
12-11-2006, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by CStoreCatMan:

We've heard the same song and dance from you forever now. Do you have something NEW to talk about here? Please say you do, this is getting old. (APPLAUDS)

SumPoosieCat
12-11-2006, 09:25 PM
Not one huh.... I didn't think so.

:D

CStoreCatMan
12-12-2006, 11:55 AM
YAWN...nothing NEW? What a surprise.

[ 12-12-2006, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: CStoreCatMan ]

SumPoosieCat
12-12-2006, 12:10 PM
All kinds of new things CStoreCatman !!!

SumPoosie Cat Extreme Energy 8.4 ounce

SumPoosie Cat Sugar Free 8.4 ounce

SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink 16 ounce new can design

All three are new for 2007.

Sugar free is made with Splenda and the others Real Cane Sugar.

POP
12-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by CStoreCatMan:
YAWN...nothing NEW? Whatchoo tawkin' about Willis?!?
Pepsi's coming out with a NEW Jeff Gordon energy drink, didn't you know that?
:D

greg
12-13-2006, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by TallThinBlonde:
CStoreMan What ???

Is there a sugar shortage??? Lol... you could not be more wrong... they use HFCS for one reason and one reason only.... it is cheap and they are getting away with it!!!

Let me put it this way... find one person on this entire board that will say HFCS is as good or better to use in beverages than real sugar.
Just one.... I will say that HFCS is better than Cane Sugar, of course that is from a bottom line Cost Anylasis point of view!! ;) ;) ;) Not a taste point of view.

SumPoosieCat
12-13-2006, 10:03 AM
Greg... I just had a Boylan Bottleworks Black Cherry Soda Pop ... on the top of the bottle it says Sweetned with Pure Cane Sugar. All I can say is... it was wonderful. What a great treat.

I was lucky growing up everything was sweetened with real sugar. This HFCS is cheap but it is dangerous.

CStoreCatMan
12-13-2006, 04:21 PM
So the Gordon can looks to be either black or dark blue with a lighter blue flame extending from the bottom of the can to the top. In the middle of the can, you see the number "24" that is in the same font and color as what's on Jeff's car. There is some text also but I can't make it out on the picture I have. This description probably doesn't do it justice because they did a pretty nice job with the package.

rackitup
12-13-2006, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by CStoreCatMan:
So the Gordon can looks to be either black or dark blue with a lighter blue flame extending from the bottom of the can to the top. In the middle of the can, you see the number "24" that is in the same font and color as what's on Jeff's car. There is some text also but I can't make it out on the picture I have. This description probably doesn't do it justice because they did a pretty nice job with the package. See first post at the begining of this thread, LOL

turbojames
12-14-2006, 05:29 AM
The word for 2008 is that Monster is sponsoring the Busch Series (Monster Energy Series perhaps?).

rackitup
12-14-2006, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by turbojames:
The word for 2008 is that Monster is sponsoring the Busch Series (Monster Energy Series perhaps?). I had not heard that.
Must be something against Alc. advertising.

I am pretty sure why Winston no longer suports the Big (Nextel)cars.

I think red Bull is going to have two Nextell Cup Toyotas next year.

Dr Thunder86
12-15-2006, 08:11 PM
I will try it even though I dont care for Gordon that much!! :rolleyes: