Hey littleguy...I thoght you didnt know the other side of the story? I thought you woundered what it was? I thought you asked me to tell you the other side of the story? After leting you know what was going on, it proved there was no other side of the story...you claim there is, well fell free to say it instead of trying to be the lead cheerleader on the UJS Damage Control Squad...Jimbo actually seems to be one of the few people who is putting logic into their writings...you say he is full of it...prove it, say what you want to say littleguy to prove jimbo, me, or anyone else wrong. I have come at you with nothing but the facts and what have I gotten in return, just a bunch of "oh your wrong, oh theres another side to the story, oh you don't suck on a monkeys nipple like I can." I'm tiered or hearing your comeback remarks with no comebacks. Littleguy if you want to fell popular then please, be my guest and keep making post that say absolutly nothing, or make it seem like you know what the hell you are talking about and actually use some facts in your writings to prove people wrong. You say Jimbo reecks of something, sorry, I think the only thing that reeks is you cause I just used your meaningless comments to wipe my ass with...no get out of here untill you have some facts...

I'd just like to thank littleguy for keeping his mouth shut for the last few days. And while I am thanking people, I will also have to thank Jimbo for having some sence. I would like to thank Jones Soda for being so unorganized. And I would also like to thank the Red Bull Girls, with out them, where would our world be today?

hey ron, you meatstick...if you had a clue who i was, you would see we have lots in common as we both dig jones soda..and feel very deeply having put tons of effort into grounding the brand..funny, i was sitting in the same room as a conversation about the situation in your area was taking place last week...so again, without saying anything specific for just any idiot (not to name names-you know who you are) to read, yes there is another side to the story....what would make this easier is if you would give the reason given to you for what is happening....you claim ujs just pulled the brand from you for no reason???? tell me why they pulled the brand...if they did indeed pull it completely from you....you make it sound as if ujs just all of a sudden just pulled it from you because of 7-up interest???? puhleze!!!!! all i can go by is my own experience w/ujs, and it hasbeen nothing but positive and been given the utmost support....so unless you provide a more concrete reason (besides "they just decided to f*** us" ) i cant comment any further....so lets mark the date today, and remember to look back a year from now when jones is kicking...oops i mean whoopin some big time ass and this ujs cheerleader is hookin it up phat!!!!!! ron, nothing personal dude, i feel for ya...even though you're a goon.....

Hey littleguy, you meatstick... If you has a reference point I time out to be, you see we to have plumb Bob in common as we be excavation Jones Soda and feeling very deeply to have to set a ton of effort in to ground brand. Funny, I its sits in equal space as a discussion over the situation into your area its takes place lastly week. So again, without says for even any idiot (to designate name they does not know you its) all specifically to read, there its page to history. To be. What to form this simply to be if you will give reason to give at you for which its occurred. You requirement UJS even for the act completely of you. Dass. You it tone forms as if UJS even all of a sudden even pulled it from you because of the interest 7-up??? Pulled? Please!!!!! Everything, which I can pass, is my own experience with UJS, and they do not hasbeen anything however positive and the outermost support.

So given,

Hans

Once again, out comes little guy...talkin a lot, but with nothing to say. Hey little guy, yes it did just happen. On a Mon. night Eddie Black had a meeting with 7-up. Wed. we heard they were more than likely going with 7-up, Sunday night I talked to Peter Van Stolk who gave me back a little reasurence, and Monday morning the Rep. said no chance in hell will we be able to keep it. To me that sounds like it just got up and let. maybe to you thats not an all-of-a-sudden thing, but to me it is. I am the Sales Manager for Millennium Brands, and the companys #1 sales man. Do I know whats going on? Yes I do. Do I know 100% of whats going on. No, but thats only because the 95% of what I do know is only **** that matters. Im telling you what happened, but once again you like to come out and just to see your name on the board say "oh no there is another side to the story. You dont know what going on. You can't screw a goat like I can." I mean stop with the sencles talking and put some cold hard facts behind what you are saying. God knows I have, and have had no second thoughts about saying names. All I know is Jones is very luck I like the soda. 7-up is now not ready to take their first load untill almost the end of May. Just think what it would do to chains and stores if we just let Jones fall through. Very tempting, but, even though I think the company, well i shouldn't say the company because I dont know everyone. So with out pointing fingers, Peter for lieing to me and just talking to me just to get me to shut up. For Eddie Black, the man who is comming in trying to clean house only he doesnt have a dust pan to sweep his mess into, and to Frank, hey you have been nice to my face, but I've heard to many stories about ya being two-faced, oh and by the way, how is the realestate business? You all basicaly make me sick. But you do have an awsome soda, its just to bad that a bunch of accounts that sell an easy 35 cases a month, wont be able to get Jones anymore cause 7-Up doesnt deal with them. So hey more power to Jones for being able to get into all the chains, too bad it comes at the cost of the smaller independant markets. They want people to "run with the little guy" even though they won't. Well at least I can look forward to buying Jones at the Rainbow Grocery when 7-up finaly gets fed up with no support, no P.O.S. and just not being able to service thoes great accounts because well, 60 year old salesmen dont call on clubs and head shops. Littleguy, I told you who I am, but you know what, I dont care if you dont reveal who you are. There is an obvious reason why I used my name and not some alias. I want people to know who exacly this is comming from, not having to play guessing games. And to all of you who are saying, "how dumb is that, he will never get a respectable job in the beverage industry once they find out what he has done here." I DONT CARE. I have a great passion for what I do. I love dealing with my customers. But the beverage world is not my life. Once I quit my current job, thats it. Chances are I will not come back to the beverage industry. So littleguy, once again, come with the facts, or like you on your prom night, don't cum at all.

Oh, and hey little guy, as for your "Nothing but support" thing. Maybe they supported other distributors, but not us. We had to pay for any shirts, glide racks and decals that we wanted. Jones gave us some stickers for free, thats it. We got nothing from the company but empty promices. No help from the reps. nothing. But what can you exspect from a desperate company with a bunch of angry stockholders. UJS cheerleaders, start watching Golden State Warriors or even watch the LA Clippers, see how thoes cheerleaders deal with being on a loosing team and still show a smile. You might learn a thing or two.

Who is as surprised as I am that Ron spelled "alias" correctly?

yeah, but he said "promices", "thoes", and "exspect". i spell better than that and im 12.

Dear Ron.

I have no idea who you are, I have no idea what this Jones Company is, and I have never heard of its Soda drink, in fact the only thing I have ever heard of is 7-Up. I am not involved in this industry and stumbled upon this Bevboard and am finding it quite interesting; particularly your argument about the Jones Company - whoever they are.

If I may I would like to make a comment form an outsiders point of view, which goes something like this:

Your passion for the job, and your dedication to your customers, (with whom I can only imagine you have built up strong personal relationships) is to be admired, and although it appears that your passion has slightly gotton the better of you I think you have nothing to fear with regards to being "unemployable" in the drinks industry, I only wish all my sales staff had your enthusiasm, fortunately I have a trade off with tact!

You obviously have an argument which you feel strongly about, and whether you are right or wrong, does not matter. I have no way of knowing what is right or wrong in this instance: but, what I do know is that the way you have made your point is not the best way, it's too late now but I think you should focus on some kind of personal damage control.

What you have to remember is that 'Business is Business' and in the world of reality no one ever runs with the little guy, The reason companies are in business is to make a profit, the reason companies are required to make a profit is because its owners (be it individuals or shareholders) want to become rich. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS and I am sure you would do the same thing. You also have to realise that the people who own this Soda drink or the Jones company have also - just like you - dedicated their lives to the drink industry - they are reaping their just rewards - I am sure that they never sold out on you because they don't like you - but more because it is part of their long term goal.

So you see this is just business. People get hurt in business - it is not personal. Therefore my advice to you is to accept it as a business decision - because that's all it is, then forget it, and focus on building another product, and I am sure that regardless of what is said and has been said, deep down, the people at Jones Company know that it is thanks to people like you that they are in a position to sell to 7-Up, although, secretly they probably know this, it will never ever be said. THAT’S BECAUSE BUSINESS IS NOT PERSONAL AND YOU REALLY NEED TO COME AWAY FROM THE PERSONAL ATTACKS - IT SERVES ONLY TO UNDERMINE YOUR ARGUMENTS AND THEREFORE ACHIEVES NOTHING.

Good luck

Who is surpried that, just like littleguy, bubbles had nothing to say. Gecko, I dont know who you are, and well I really dont care. Do I have a spell cheeck on here. No, and do I really care if everyword is spelled right no. Im not a good speller and so what. Can anyone of you hit a baseball as far as I can, or even throw as fast as I can. I highly doubt it, but Im not holding it against you, its just not a great treat that you have. Now what I would like to know is, why are you trying to attack my spelling. Do you think it will hinder my credibility. Are you trying to become the Bevboard Enlgish Teacher. Fact of the matter is, that everything I have stated in my posts are true, and no one has been able to go against me with anyfacts. So if your way of getting me back is to attack my spelling. Have at it, there are a lot of mispelled words in my writting. Just get in line, cause people have been knocking my spelling since the 6th grade. And Giles, again I dont know who you are,but you do bring up some good points. Now whether you actually do know about jones or no, I don't know. But you do make good points. Am I very employable? Yes, I have numerous suppliers trying to find out if I'd be intested in working with them. But, I do not plan to stay in the Beverage Industry. I came into this job as an 18 year old kid leaving 7-11 for a better job. It seems I will be leaving as a 20 year old man. I've learned so much in this job. Like the fact that 90% of the beverage people are just in it for the money. They are all whores, and well it makes me sick. I did this cause of the love I had for my brands, cause I had one of the best, down to earth, coolest bosses (Tom Deturk) and I got my friends hired on. It was a great exsperience. I rose to the ranks of Beer Manager and Sales Manager. Earned the respect of hundreds of accounts and many of the suppliers as well. Was I getting paid a decent amount? Well almost $35,000 a year. Not terable for a guy my age, but cause of the love for the job is why I worked 50+ hours a week. Its why I have pulled all nighters working 27 hours straight. Its why I did all these things and not get paid hourly for it. So bubbles, Gecko, Littleguy, anyone else who opposes what I say, but has no backing to put down what I say, Well then to quote a TV personality "If you ain't down with that, I got two words for you. SUCK IT."