Thanks for that Veruca. Actually there would be something in it if I were to buy Red Bull from them. I mean the distributor didn't pay for the machine anyway did he? Everything is all about money, atleast once the big fish gets to be the big fish, lets not try to help others prosper. As long as it doesn't infringe on their business, which in this case would help them. Where is all of those billions of dollars that Matt Lesko says you can get in free gov't grant money lol?

Veruca, I appreciate your steadfast will and solid logic concerning this subject. I suspect that you do well in all your endeavors.

Veruca, you're the man!!! I hear what your saying and I appreciate you taking the time to post a response. I made some progress today at couple of big gyms. Call centers is where its at! Have you or anyone else ever considered partnering up with your local full-line vendor? I'm sure everyone has come up against their contracts. Think about this -- If they agree to add your machine to their contracted location and you offer them the machine at no charge and give them a cut - 25 cents or something - and do the servicing yourself - do you think its worth it?? Your local Red Bull distributor can basically give them a loaner. I think this could only work at high volume locations and with a solid agreement with your local vendor. I'm thinking this may be an option for part of the business. If I can place some of my own and also have this deal setup, it may work. Any thoughts?

hello all... i've been reading posts for a week or so now and decided to register and put in my 2 cents. i purchased 4 royal machines from CC back in sept 05. they took forever to arrive. after their arrival in late nov., target marketing took even longer to get on the case. to make a long story short, i'll just say that dave lassonde and his bull**** company "target Marketing" suck! they're nothing more than scam artists. as for CC, they sure as hell sugar-coated a lot of stuff, but over all they stand behind what they say. they sold me 4 machines and 800 cans + a 3 year warranty for $13710 including shipping. then sent me back $1100 for the cans because at the time they didn't have it all set up yet. also, they reimbursed me $300 for moving the machines... $75 each. only after finding out about this site, and reading posts did i realize that i got a pretty good deal!! yeah they tell tall tales when it comes to what you can expect to sell, but they are there if you need them and stand behind their product. well... i ended up securing my own locations, renting a truck and placing 3 of the machines. the last is still in my garage (only due to my lack of time and some laziness!) of the 3, 2 are in good sized gyms and the other a very busy car wash. i'd say i've been up and running for 2 1/2 months. i'm doing 20 - 30 cans per machine per week. could be better, but not a bad start. i own a courier / distribution service and this is my first vending endeavor. i think i'll persue more machines. however, different types..... snacks, soda, etc. 4 Red Bull machines is enough. i've heard the expression thrown around on here, and to some extent i agree... these machines ARE one trick ponies! when i get around to it, i'm going to try and get the fourth machine in some type of school... business college, community college, a big beauty school. i want to diversify my locations and see which type ultimately does best. both gyms i'm in have litterally hundreds of members, yet my sales are modest! i thought they'd be doing in a day what they're doing all week. but i'm not complaining. @ the pace they're moving they're at least paying for themselves. they require little time and i'm optimistic. there is a lot of good advice on this board, i've learned a lot just by browsing.... unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of blowhards as well!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

emaak
how did get your location and are you paying anything to your location? what part of NJ are you located?

i just went around with a good picture of the machine and my business card. i charge $2.50 and i give the location .50 i'm in north jersey. do you have machines chef?

emaak
not yet but I've been looking into it, did you have a tough time locating do to exclusivity with pepsi/coke or larger vendors in your area

i just heard from a friend that cc and rebull have terminated their contract does anybody know how true this is and why it happened if it did?

If that is true, now that would put a way different light on CC. Ok, we all ready know about how inconsistent CC runs their sales division. LOL I will feel bad if the good customers of CC end up getting a raw deal.

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I have a story to share about my red bull vending machines that I bought through creative concepts; it reads almost exactly like Emaak's. I bought my machines in september and received them almost 2 months later. The locating company that was working alongside CC, target marketing, contacted me when they heard my machines were shipped. I was excited about my business endeavor! Was I fool. Turns out that Target marketing SUCKS! They didn't do crap for me. In fact after several months and a couple of complaints later did they get another locating company to help me. This company was better, they did find me two locations, but then I got a letter saying they could no longer help me! I only needed one more location! I called them and they had to call Target marketing to get my money back. Keep in mind that this was an awfully long process of a couple of months. Meanwhile my money is going down the sh*tter. Anyways, about the machines, it is now April and I just installed my second machine in a Jiffy Lube. By the way my first machine that was next to a laundry room in a hotel was just vandalized after only 9 days. I called CC to get new parts because they cover theft and vandalism for up to a year. Left 2 messages no one is getting back to me. my machine is sitting in a storage room in a hotel. I'm waiting for the hotel manager to come back from vacation so I can ask her if I could put my machine in the lobby, but in the meantime I'm still losing money. During those nine days I think I sold about 10 drinks. That means I sold one a day. I wonder how Jiffy Lube will do. CC says that average sales for the red bull machine should be 23 drinks per day. I'd like to know where the in the hell they are putting their machines? CC also said that if your machines aren't generating sales in this amount that you should have them removed and put in another location. Who's gonna find me these new locations, Target Marketing? I love how they make it seem so easy to do. This great dream I once had is slowly becomming a nightmare. By the way my machines were about $2300 each, I saw the exact same ones on the arrow vendings site for about half that price; yes those don't have the red bull logo on the side, but that really doesn't matter. My advice to those interested in pursuing something like this is:

1. Do your research (my most important point)
2. Do not work with locating companies (they do not locate very well)
3. Do your research (it is great to have a discussion board just like this because you can learn from other people's experiences)