I bought 15 machines from Creative Concepts and installed 4 of the machines. Having good luck, 7-10 cans a day. Cannot continue because of a family business obligation. Would like to sell the machines, very motivated. 11 of the machines are still shrink wraped and in original packaging. These are the royal machines.

7-10 cans a day? WOW I’m impressed.

Lepke, does your comment have the slightest of importance on this thread. Go drown yourself, perferably in RED BULL

Why am I getting the feeling that a lawsuit filed by RBNA against CC is imminent?

Redskin, CC at this point is no more authorized to sell you machines than anyone selling one on eBay. They are no longer affiliated with RBNA, effective April 10th. I don't know any existing vendors who are continuing to do business with them on any level. What's the point if they are no longer authorized to take product orders, sell machines, or provide warranty support?

Existing vendors buy their product and machines through local Red Bull distributors. That is because they bought into the business when CC was actually a legitimate business partner of Red Bull and was authorized to sell machines and offer distributorships. Anyone who was already vending at the time CC and RBNA parted ways was contacted by RBNA and their local distributor, to explain that all future product sales and machine sales would be done through local distribution.

Please do yourself a favor and call RBNA's consumer affairs department before sending any money to CC. They WERE a legitimate enterprise at one point, yes. But no more. If you want a legitimate Red Bull Vending Machine business, with Red Bull North America's support, you will have to convince your local distributor to bring you in. There is always vending through generic vendors as well. That would also free you up to offer other products.

[ 04-20-2006, 01:51 AM: Message edited by: Veruca Vending ]

That is per machine, right?

Have you contacted your local distributor to see if any of the other operators they service are looking to buy additional machines? Local shipping, less hassle - and I'm sure the warranties, etc would be a breeze to transfer if you were selling to an existing vendor. You also stand a better chance of getting rid of them all in one sale. From the sounds of things, you might even be able to get CC to buy them back. They've got to be buying them from somewhere if they're still selling them to people.

[ 04-20-2006, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: Veruca Vending ]

Hi, This whole creative concepts thing is a nightmare. And I think that is why Red Bull decided to stop working with them. I work for Royal as a Tech and wanted to clear up a few things.

“They will try to squirt salt water in the coin chute to try and short out the changer causing it to dump all the money ( don't know if this EVER actually worked or not, I have been in the soda business over 15 years and never seen it work but they STILL try it)” - This did actually used to work. Hasn’t in the last 15 years or so. Really hasn’t happened since about 6 months after the coin mech manufactures discovered it could happen.

“Does anyone know where to get Red Bull Vending machines other Creative Concepts?” - I am not sure they ever had an “exclusive” contract. I was out at Red Bull last month and they seem like they are geared to go through some other distribution channels.

“I contacted CC and they said everything conveys warranties etc.” Royal’s warranty is NON-Transferable, meaning we will only ship warranty parts to the original purchaser. Vandalism is NOT covered under warranty.

“I must say they are extremely lucky they are the exclusive distributors of these machines” – They are not.

“I hate to say this but everyone beware.im from ny and i met a guy from fla. and my keys open his machines!!!!!!!!” – We key the machine depending on how they are ordered. For example Coke and Pepsi order machines from us with no keys. Otherwise we put generic locks on them. Feel free to change the locks.

“If you can't get that but still can vend at the location, not only are most machines labeled coke or pepsi exluding red bull sales, but the generic machine can't vend the 8.3 oz cans.” – Our Merlin IV and GIII machines will both vend a 250ml can. Check our website @ http://www.royalvendors.com for more info. (under service and support / Package Vending specs.)

“does anybody know if theres a way to put anything other than 8 1/2 once cans in the new red bull machines ?” Yes you can. The problem you are going to run into is with decals and licensing. Red Bull grants you license to use their logo under the assumption that Red Bull is being sold. Proceed at your own risk!

“Lube called me today and said my machine spit out several drinks!” – If adjusting your chute (some call it vibration or impact) sensor doesn’t work, it might be a programming issue. E-mail me through the board if you are still having trouble.

“They will be selling us our new machines effective 4/8/06, and Royal will directly handle requests for maintenance and service.” – This is news to me but I will try and confirm it. Just a heads up, we do tech support. There is no (and not from any vending company to my knowledge) provision for any kind of on-site service or maintenance. So buy some tools.

[ 04-24-2006, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: RoyalTech ]

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Is this guy then confirming that the keys that they ship with the Red Bull machines will open ALL Red Bull machines? Do these generic locks all have the same key to open them?

Not confirming anything. Just saying that we ship based on order. With CC's track record that wouldn't suprise me. Offically i can't say how we ship them.

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Great post. Alot of good info there. Reading just my quote extracted there, it occured to me that I phrased that poorly. It used to be that any warranty requests, etc were always handled through CC, who then coordinated replacement parts, warranty issues, etc. Since RB no longer works with CC, I am told that we will now be contacting Royal directly with these issues on any future machines purchases. I didn't mean to imply that Royal would now be servicing these machines with respect to maintenance, if that's how it was read.

By the way, can you confirm whether or not the MerlinRB's are capable of vending the 500ml cans with a shim kit, and are these currently being sold?