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    aspartame: methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid toxicity:
    brief review: Murray 1.13.3 rmforall

    Rich Murray, MA Room For All
    1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 USA 505-986-9103
    for 959 posts in a public searchable archive
    formaldehyde & formic acid from methanol in aspartame:
    Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

    It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily
    for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid
    toxicity, since 11% of aspartame (1,120 mg in 2L diet soda, 5.6 12-oz
    cans) is 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol), immediately released into the
    body after drinking (unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in
    molecules inside many fruits), then quickly transformed into
    formaldehyde, which in turn becomes formic acid, both of which in
    time become carbon dioxide and water-- however, about 30% of the
    methanol remains in the body as cumulative durable toxic metabolites of
    formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily, a gram every month.
    If 10% of the methanol is retained as formaldehyde, that would give 12
    mg daily formaldehyde accumulation, about 60 times more than the 0.2 mg
    from 10% retention of the 2 mg EPA daily limit for formaldehyde in
    drinking water.

    Bear in mind that the EPA limit for formaldehyde in
    drinking water is 1 ppm,
    or 2 mg daily for a typical daily consumption of 2 L of water.
    RTM: ATSDR: EPA limit 1 ppm formaldehyde in drinking water July 1999
    5.30.2 rmforall

    This long-term low-level chronic toxic exposure leads to typical
    patterns of increasingly severe complex symptoms, starting with
    headache, fatigue, joint pain, irritability, memory loss, and leading to
    vision and eye problems and even seizures. In many cases there is
    addiction. Probably there are immune system disorders, with a
    hypersensitivity to these toxins and other chemicals.

    Confirming evidence and a general theory are given by Pall (2002):
    testable theory of MCS type diseases, vicious cycle of nitric oxide &
    peroxynitrite: MSG: formaldehyde-methanol-aspartame:
    Martin L. Pall: Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall
    Functional Therapeutics in Neurodegenerative Disease Part 1/2:
    Perlmutter 7.15.99: Murray 1.10.3 rmforall
    formaldehyde toxicity: Thrasher & Kilburn: Shaham: EPA: Gold: Murray:
    Wilson: CIIN: 12.12.2 rmforall
    24 recent formaldehyde toxicity [Comet assay] reports:
    Murray 12.31.2 rmforall
    comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in
    mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 1.1.3 rmforall
    aspartame (aspartic acid, phenylalanine) binding to DNA:
    Karikas July 1998: Murray 1.5.3 rmforall
    Karikas GA, Schulpis KH, Reclos GJ, Kokotos G
    Measurement of molecular interaction of aspartame and
    its metabolites with DNA. Clin Biochem 1998 Jul; 31(5): 405-7.
    Dept. of Chemistry, University of Athens, Greece 5-page review
    Roberts HJ Aspartame (NutraSweet) addiction.
    Townsend Letter 2000 Jan;
    Sunshine Sentinel Press P.O.Box 17799 West Palm Beach, FL 33416
    800-814-9800 561-588-7628 561-547-8008 fax
    1038-page medical text "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic"
    published May 30 2001 $ 85.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases
    available at
    over 600 references from standard medical research 34 chapters

    Roberts, Hyman J., 1924- ,
    Useful insights for diagnosis, treatment and public heath: an updated
    anthology of original research, 2002, 798 pages,
    Palm Beach Institute for Medical Research, Inc.
    P.O. Box 17799, West Palm Beach, FL 33416
    fax 561-547-8008
    aspartame disease pages 627-685, 778-780 .
    RTM: Roberts: the life work of a brilliant clinician:
    aspartame toxicity 8.2.2 rmforall
    RTM: Moseley:
    review Roberts "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic" 2.7.2 rmforall
    RTM: Smith, Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:
    full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 1.17.2 rmforall
    Jerry D Smith, Chris M Terpening, Siegfried OF Schmidt, and John G Gums
    Relief of Fibromyalgia Symptoms Following
    Discontinuation of Dietary Excitotoxins.
    The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 2001; 35(6): 702?????????706.
    Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Gainesville, FL, USA.
    BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a common rheumatologic disorder that is
    often difficult to treat effectively.
    CASE SUMMARY: Four patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia syndrome
    for two to 17 years are described.
    All had undergone multiple treatment
    modalities with limited success. All had complete, or nearly complete,
    resolution of their symptoms within months after eliminating monosodium
    glutamate (MSG) or MSG plus aspartame from their diet.
    All patients were women with multiple comorbidities
    prior to elimination of MSG.
    All have had recurrence of symptoms whenever MSG is ingested.

    Siegfried O. Schmidt, MD Asst. Clinical Prof.
    Community Health and Family Medicine, U. Florida, Gainesville, FL
    Shands Hospital
    West Oak Clinic Gainesville, FL 32608-3629 352-376-5071

    Debbie J. Hypes 304-872-4141 (Case # 1 of 4)
    P.O Box 25 Lookout, WV 25868-0025 She has about 1,000 on her local
    mailing list, and has been a volunteer activist since 1997. Her guide
    first came out in 1997:
    "The Food Plan: How To Do It" $ 5 by mail, free by email.
    Her sister Darlene, now 47, cured her own severe fibromyalgia in 1995
    by using an elimination diet, and then Debbie also cured herself by
    1997. Their doctor, Siegfried Schmidt, paying attention, tried it on
    two selected women, who got well, and are his third and fourth cases.
    RTM: aspartame in Merck Maxalt-MLT worsens migraine,
    AstraZeneca Zomig, Eli Lilly Zyprexa,
    J&J Merck Pepcid AC (Famotidine 10mg) Chewable Tab,
    Pfizer Cool Mint Listerine Pocketpaks 7.16.2 rmforall
    Migraine MLT-Down: an unusual presentation of migraine
    in patients with aspartame-triggered headaches.
    Newman LC, Lipton RB Headache 2001 Oct; 41(9): 899-901.
    [Merck 10-mg Maxalt-MLT, for migraine, has 3.75 mg aspartame,
    while 12 oz diet soda has 200 mg.]
    Headache Institute, St. Lukes-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY
    Department of Neurology
    Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY
    Innovative Medical Research
    RTM: Blumenthall & Vance:
    aspartame chewing gum headaches Nov 1997 7.28.2 rmforall
    Harvey J. Blumenthal, MD, Dwight A Vance, RPh
    Chewing Gum Headaches.
    Headache 1997 Nov-Dec; 37(10): 665-6.
    Department of Neurology, University of Oklahoma College of Medicine,
    Tulsa, USA.
    Aspartame, a popular dietetic sweetener, may provoke headache in some
    susceptible individuals. Herein, we describe three cases of young women
    with migraine who reported their headaches could be provoked by chewing
    gum sweetened with aspartame. [6-8 mg aspartame per stick chewing gum]
    aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 1/2
    full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall
    aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 2/2
    full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall
    Trocho C, Pardo R, Rafecas I, Virgili J, Remesar X,
    Fernandez-Lopez JA, Alemany M ["Trok-ho"]
    Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue
    components in vivo. Life Sci 1998 Jun 26; 63(5): 337-49.
    Departament de Bioquimica i Biologia Molecular, Facultat de Biologia,
    Universitat de Barcelona, Spain.
    Maria Alemany, PhD (male)
    Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
    adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall
    Prof. Alemany vigorously affirms the validity of the Trocho study
    against criticism:
    Butchko, HH et al [24 authors], Aspartame: review of safety.
    Regul. Toxicol. Pharmacol. 2002 April 1; 35 (2 Pt 2): S1-93, review
    available for $35, [an industry paid organ]. Butchko:
    "When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the
    premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is
    clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions
    regarding its safety under conditions of intended use."
    [They repeatedly pass on the ageless industry deceit that the methanol
    in fruits and vegetables is as as biochemically available as that in
    aspartame-- see the 1984 rebuttal by Monte, below.]
    RTP ties to industry criticized by CSPI: Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall
    immune system reactions due to formaldehyde from the 11% methanol in
    aspartame: Thrasher: Tephly: Monte: Murray 9.27.2 rmforall

    J. Nutrition 1973 Oct; 103(10): 1454-1459.
    Metabolism of aspartame in monkeys.
    Oppermann JA, Muldoon E, Ranney RE.
    Dept. of Biochemistry, Searle Laboratories,
    Division of G.D. Searle and Co. Box 5110, Chicago, IL 60680
    They found that about 70% of the radioactive methanol in aspartame put
    into the stomachs of 3 to 7 kg monkeys was eliminated within a day as
    carbon dioxide in exhaled air and as water in the urine. They did not
    mention that this meant that about 30% of the methanol must transform
    into formaldehyde and then into formic acid, much of which must remain
    as toxic products in all parts of the body. They did not report any
    studies on the distribution of radioactivity in body tissues, except
    that blood plasma proteins after 4 days held 4% of the initial
    methanol. This study did not monitor long-term use of aspartame.
    MCS, aspartame, formaldehyde, other toxicants: Kerns: Murray 9.27.2
    rmforall [an excellent overview]
    Rich Murray: Professional House Doctors: Singer: EPA: CPSC:
    formaldehyde toxicity 6.10.1 rmforall
    Rich Murray: Gold: Koehler: Walton: Van Den Eeden: Leon:
    aspartame toxicity 6.4.1 rmforall
    Rich Murray: Simmons: Gold: Schiffman: Spiers:
    aspartame toxicity 6.4.1 rmforall
    Aspartame: Methanol and the Public Interest 1984:
    Monte: Murray 9.23.2 rmforall

    Dr. Woodrow C. Monte Aspartame: methanol, and the public health.
    Journal of Applied Nutrition 1984; 36 (1): 42-54.
    (62 references) Professsor of Food Science
    Director of the Food Science and Nutrition Laboratory
    Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona 85287
    6411 South River Drive #61 Tempe, Arizona 85283-3337
    602-965-6938 [now retired in New Zealand]
    The methanol from 2 L of diet soda, 5.6 12-oz cans, 20 mg/can, is
    112 mg, 10% of the aspartame. The EPA limit for water is 7.8 mg daily
    for methanol (wood alcohol), a deadly cumulative poison. Many users
    drink 1-2 L daily. The reported symptoms are entirely consistent
    with chronic methanol toxicity. (Fresh orange juice has 34 mg/L, but,
    like all juices, has 16 times more ethanol, which strongly protects
    against methanol.)

    "Fruit and vegetables contain pectin with variable methyl ester
    content. However, the human has no digestive enzymes for pectin (6, 25)
    particularly the pectin esterase required
    for its hydrolysis to methanol (26).

    Fermentation in the gut may cause disappearance of pectin (6) but the
    production of free methanol is not guaranteed by fermentation (3). In
    fact, bacteria in the colon probably reduce methanol directly to formic
    acid or carbon dioxide (6) (aspartame is completely absorbed before
    reaching the colon). Heating of pectins has been shown to cause
    virtually no demethoxylation; even temperatures of 120 deg C produced
    only traces of methanol (3). Methanol evolved during cooking of high
    pectin foods (7) has been accounted for in the volatile fraction during
    boiling and is quickly lost to the atmosphere (49).
    Entrapment of these volatiles probably accounts for the elevation in
    methanol levels of certain fruit and vegetable products
    during canning (31, 33)."

    Recent research [see links at end of post] supports his focus on the
    methanol to formaldehyde toxic process:

    "The United States Environmental Protection Agency in their Multimedia
    Environmental Goals for Environmental Assessment recommends a minimum
    acute toxicity concentration of methanol in drinking water at 3.9 parts
    per million, with a recommended limit of consumption below 7.8 mg/day
    (8). This report clearly indicates that methanol:

    "is considered a cumulative poison
    due to the low rate of excretion once it is absorbed.
    In the body, methanol is oxidized to formaldehyde and
    formic acid; both of these metabolites are toxic." (8)....

    Recently the toxic role of formaldehyde (in methanol toxicity) has been
    questioned (34). No skeptic can overlook the fact that, metabolically,
    formaldehyde must be formed as an intermediate to formic acid
    production (54).

    Formaldehyde has a high reactivity which may be why it
    has not been found in humans or other primates during methanol
    poisioning (59)....

    If formaldehyde is produced from methanol and does have a reasonable
    half life within certain cells in the poisoned organism the chronic
    toxicological ramifications could be grave.

    Formaldehyde is a known
    carcinogen (57) producing squamous-cell carcinomas by inhalation
    exposure in experimental animals (22). The available epidemiological
    studies do not provide adequate data for assessing the carcinogenicity
    of formaldehyde in man (22, 24, 57).

    However, reaction of formaldehyde
    with deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) has resulted in irreversible
    denaturation that could interfere with DNA replication and result in
    mutation (37)...."
    Dr. J. Barua (ophthalmic surgeon), Dr. Arun Bal (surgeon)
    Emerging facts about aspartame.
    Journal Of The Diabetic Association Of India 1995; 35 (4):
    (79 references)
    "...the total amount of methanol absorbed will be approximately
    10% of aspartame ingested. An EPA assessment of methanol states
    that methanol, 'is considered a cumulative poison due to the low rate
    of excretion once it is absorbed. The absorbed methanol is then
    slowly converted to formaldehyde...'"
    "Reaction of formaldehyde with DNA has been observed,
    by spectrophotometry and electron microscopy, to result in
    irreversible denaturation."
    "DKP has been implicated in the occurence of brain tumors."
    aspartame harms mice brain cells: Hetle & Eltervaag: 2001 thesis
    abstract: Sonnewald 1995 study, full text: Murray 1.5.3 rmforall
    WebMD: Barclay: Barth:
    survey shows aspartame hurts memory in students 11.9.00
    Timothy M. Barth Department of Psychology
    Texas Christian University TCU Box 298920 Fort Worth, TX 76129
    Chairman, Physiological Psychology 817-921-7410
    Kovatsi L, Tsouggas M
    The effect of oral aspartame administration on the
    balance of magnesium in the rat.
    Magnes Res 2001 Sep;14(3): 189-94.
    Laboratory of Forensic Medicine & Toxicology, Faculty of Medicine
    Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Greece
    aspartame, cell phones, brain cancer July 1999 Hardell:
    Murray 1.9.3 rmforall
    Lennart Hardell, M.D., PhD, in 1999 reported in Sweden that both
    cell phone use and heavy aspartame use correlate with increased
    brain cancers +46 19 602 15 46
    Murray: Wurtman: aspartame & seizures 11.9.85 10.30.99
    Wurtman RJ Aspartame: possible effect on seizure susceptibility.
    Lancet 1985 Nov 9; 2(8463): 1060.
    Richard J. Wurtman, Ph.D. 617-253-3091
    Professor of Neuroscience
    Prof. of Health Sciences and Technology
    Massachusetts Institute of Technlogy Cambridge, Mass. 02139
    Murray: Drake: aspartame & panic attacks 9.13.86 10.30.99 rmforall
    Miles E. Drake, MD
    Panic attacks and excessive aspartame ingestion.
    Lancet 1986 Sep 13; 2(8507): 631.
    Department of Neurology and Psychiatry,
    Ohio State University Medical Center, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA Truth in Labeling Campaign [MSG]
    Adrienne Samuels, PhD The toxicity/safety of processed
    free glutamic acid (MSG): a study in suppression of information.
    Accountability in Research 1999; 6: 259-310. 52-page review
    P.O. Box 2532 Darien, Illinois 60561
    858-481-9333 Debby Anglesey <>
    Battling the "MSG Myth", A Survival Guide and Cookbook - $19.00
    P.O. Box 895 Richland, WA 99352 509-735-3397
    Lancet website aspartame letter 7.29.99:
    Excitotoxins 1999 Part 1/3 Blaylock: Murray 1.14.0 rmforall
    The Medical Sentinel Journal 1999 Fall; (95 references)

    Russell L. Blaylock, MD 601-982-1175 Madison, Mississippi "Bioterrorism: How You Can Survive"
    Advanced Nutritional Concepts,LLC PO Box 2670 Ridgeland, MS 39158-2670
    "Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills", 1977, 298 p., 493 references.
    "Health and Nutrition Secrets that can save your life", 2002, 459 p.,
    558 + 30 references, $ 30 PO Box 37470 Albuquerque, NM 87176
    505-888-1394 fax 505-888-1521 Kathleen Frazier, Publisher

    George R. Schwartz, MD "In Bad Taste: The MSG Syndrome", 1988, 123 p.
    RTM: Merisant Co., MSD Capital, Dell Computer Corp., NutraSweet Co.,
    JW Childs Assc.: aspartame-neotame toxicity 7.10.2 rmforall David O. Rietz over 12,000 print pages
    Mission-Possible-USA Betty Martini 770-242-2599 many links Jeff Martin, Attorney
    What many informed doctors are saying/have said about aspartame 603-225-2100
    Aspartame Toxicity Information Center Mark D. Gold 12 East Side Drive #2-18 Concord, NH 03301
    "Scientific Abuse in Aspartame Research"

    Aspartame Consumer Safety Network and Pilot Hotline [1987-2001]
    Mary Nash Stoddard, Founder & President
    P.O. Box 780634 Dallas, TX 75378 .
    Toxicology Sourcebook: "Deadly Deception: Story of Aspartame"
    RTM: Samuels: Strong: Roberts: Gold: flaws in double-blind studies re
    aspartame and MSG toxicity 8.1.2 rmforall

    "Survey of aspartame studies: correlation of outcome and funding
    sources," 1998, unpublished:
    Walton found 166 separate published studies in the peer reviewed
    medical literature, which had relevance for questions of human safety.
    The 74 studies funded by industry all (100%) attested to aspartame's
    safety, whereas of the 92 non-industry funded studies, 84 (91%)
    identified a problem. Six of the seven non-industry funded studies
    that were favorable to aspartame safety were from the FDA, which
    has a public record that shows a strong pro-industry bias.
    Ralph G. Walton, MD, Prof. of Clinical Psychology, Northeastern Ohio
    Universities, College of Medicine, Dept. of Psychiatry, Youngstown,
    OH 44501, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral Medicine,
    Northside Medical Center, 500 Gypsy Lane, P.O. Box 240 Youngstown,
    OH 44501 330-740-3621 gives 133,000 websites for "aspartame" , while finds on 700 MB of posts from 20-years of
    Usenet groups, 75,700 posts, and gives 261,750, the top three being leading and
    very well informed volunteer anti-aspartame sites. gives 34,100 websites. lists 719 aspartame items. Additives Survivors' Network (UK) John T. Linnell
    Canadian Class Action Law Suit
    RTM: CBN:
    Totheroh & Robertson: aspartame expose 2.13.2 rmforall
    RTM: Ive:
    UK Daily Mirror Magazine: aspartame toxicity 2.18.2 rmforall
    RTM: original documents and long reviews of flaws in
    aspartame toxicity research 7.31.2 rmforall
    safety of aspartame Part 1/2 12.4.2: EC HCPD-G SCF:
    Murray 1.12.3 rmforall EU Scientific Committee on Food
    aspartame expose 96K Oct 1987 Part 1/3: Gregory Gordon, UPI reporter:
    Murray 7.10.0 rmforall
    aspartame history Part 1/4 1964-1976: Gold: Murray 11.6.9: rmforall
    Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval:
    Turner: Murray 12.23.2 rmforall
    revolving door, Monsanto, FDA, EPA: NGIN: Murray 12.23.2 rmforall
    hyperthyroidism (Graves disease) in George and Barbara Bush, 1991--
    aspartame toxicity? Roberts 1997: Murray 10.9.2 rmforall
    re "dry drunk": Bisbort: danger to President Bush from aspartame
    toxicity: Murray: 2.24.2 9.29.2 rmforall extensive vegan information
    Robert Kradjian MD Discusses Milk

    Substitute saccharine and, even better, stevia (at health food stores).
    Avoid all products with aspartame and MSG. Gradually reduce alcohol,
    caffeine (coffee, cocoa, and teas), meat, fish, eggs, milk, butter, and
    cheese, food additives and colors, fluoride, city water: enjoy organic
    rice, beans, nuts, vegetables, fruits, with modest use of soy products
    and sprouted grain breads, flax seed and olive oils, and fill your jugs
    with deionized water.
    ************************************************** ********************

    Serious symptom syndrome summary:
    Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, Canderel, Benevia) is reported by
    scientific studies and case histories to be toxic: * headaches
    * many body and joint pains (or burning, tingling, tremors, twitching,
    spasms, cramps, or numbness) * fever, fatigue
    * "mind fog", "feel unreal", poor memory, confusion, anxiety,
    irritability, depression, mania, insomnia, dizziness, slurred speech,
    ringing in ears, sexual problems, poor vision, hearing, or taste
    * red face, itching, rashes, burning eyes or throat,
    dry mouth or eyes, mouth sores * hair loss
    * obesity, bloating, edema, anorexia,
    poor or excessive hunger or thirst * breathing problems
    * nausea, diarrhea or constipation * coldness * sweating
    * racing heart, high blood pressure, erratic blood sugar levels
    * seizures * birth defects * brain cancers * addiction
    * aggrivates diabetes, autism, ADHD, allergies,
    and interstitial cystitis (bladder pain)
    ************************************************** ********************* Canada Canada Spain Brazil Norway Holland, in Dutch Italy Greece
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    Send blank post to: <br /> to join<br />free,open, list with searchable archives for toxicity issues.<br />Richard \"Rich\" T. Murray Room For All 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, NM 87505<br /> 505-501-2298

  • #2
    I think I heard aspartame causes monsterism too.

    I stay away from anything with sugar substitutes anyway. There is always a horrible aftertaste. I'm waiting for a corn syrup substitute next.


    • #3
      man i thought the aspartame people got to him. but he's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.........

      do many things still use aspartame? i know in canada many diet drinks do but i thought that most in america don't anymore.
      woot woot


      • #4
        Originally posted by rmforall
        aspartameNM : Messages : 1583-1613 of 1613
        for 959 posts in a public searchable archive
        Wow very nice,thank you!!!

        Aspertame is QUITE BAD and its disgusting how many things have this crap in it now! (That dont need to)


        • #5

          Urban legend.

 Aspartame -- Sweet Poison?


          • #6
            Im sorry but SNOPES is a piece of crap website that thinks THEY KNOW EVERYTHING!!

            I wouldnt believe one word about anything on that site!


            • #7
              Wow, you mad?

              The snopes link actually links you to official sources, like the FDA. Besides, why did you did this thread up from the grave, anyway?

              Artificial sweeteners and another man-made products, like medications, textiles, and so on have been important and necessary for many people to live a normal life. Why shouldn't a diabetic be able to enjoy a soda like the next guy?

              Science and medicine, like any other thing developed by man, are imperfect. We look back now and laugh about the belief that drilling a hole in one's head to let the demons escape would cure certain illnesses, but they truly believed it back then. With science, it is important to keep testing, keep researching, keep learning from mistakes made in the past to cure disease, improve lives, and keep us as healthy as possible. Sweeteners, like medications, diets, and whatnot, are not all one size fits all. Everyone's body is unique, and we all don't react to things in the same way. That is why there are options. Current scientific research finds no danger in the consumption of aspartame as a non-nutritive sweetener, and it has been one of the most tested and researched of all the artificial sweeteners.

              I'm just thankful we live in a country where there are so many options. I've seen the look on people's faces shopping in our grocery stores from less-fortunate countries - they are amazed at the selection. Imagine seeing hundreds of choices in the bread aisle, or in the cheese section, when back home, you'd be lucky to just see any bread or cheese on the shelf.

              A little open-mindedness goes a long way.

              Now, can we let this thread die? Or at least move it to the appropriate board?


              • #8
                Originally posted by Dude111 View Post
                Wow very nice,thank you!!!

                Aspertame is QUITE BAD and its disgusting how many things have this crap in it now! (That dont need to)
                Nice boost retard. Nevermind the fact that you are so ignorant.


                • #9
                  Im sorry but i am not ignorant,i am quite concerned for peoples health!

                  Please see my thread here >


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dude111 View Post
                    Im sorry but i am not ignorant,i am quite concerned for peoples health!

                    Please see my thread here >
                    Another douchey bump. You suck.