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    [ 02-16-2007, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: greg ]
    Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

  • #2
    good call bro.......
    CJ <br />Business relations

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    • #3
      Whats with the "Flatline" news title? The Sacramento guy saying he felt like he was having a heart attack after drinking 2. Doesnt the can say to drink only half. Red Line is definatly not a typical energy drink. I wonder if this guy has slept in the past 3 days?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by deepnenergy:
        good call bro.......
        Thanks, I came to my senses.
        Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ron Swedelson:
          Whats with the "Flatline" news title? The Sacramento guy saying he felt like he was having a heart attack after drinking 2. Doesnt the can say to drink only half. Red Line is definatly not a typical energy drink. I wonder if this guy has slept in the past 3 days?
          Where was the story about personal responsibilty?
          If you have never had an energy drink before, as he stated, why do you automatically suck down 2?
          Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

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          • #6
            another reason we need a EDMA and dumb a** people won't have legs to stand by a clame like that.....I really want to do this can't you tell???
            CJ <br />Business relations

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            • #7
              Originally posted by greg:
              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ron Swedelson:
              Whats with the "Flatline" news title? The Sacramento guy saying he felt like he was having a heart attack after drinking 2. Doesnt the can say to drink only half. Red Line is definatly not a typical energy drink. I wonder if this guy has slept in the past 3 days?
              Where was the story about personal responsibilty?
              If you have never had an energy drink before, as he stated, why do you automatically suck down 2?
              </font>[/QUOTE]Greg - I like you and respect you. But, I have to say it seems to me if Redline IS this strong and REQUIRES a warning label...it should not be sitting on the shelf next to Red Bull and Monster. You can drink 8 red bulls and be fine...but some people are drinking just 1 Redline and calling poison control.

              Personal responsibility? No..not when you can pick up this drink at your local 7-eleven - you shouldn't have to think twice about gulping down a beverage you get at a popular store.

              What about corporate responsibility? If this stuff is even potentially harmful to an unknowing consumer...why is it available to so many of them? A little warning label isn't enough if VPX wants to continue selling in the mainstream market...IMO.

              Thanks,
              Catman

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              • #8
                wow well at least you know what your up against! Well put like a lawyer, Catman but stop trying to scare my friend Greg....... [img]smile.gif[/img]
                CJ <br />Business relations

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the support DEEP but I'm not scared.
                  REDLINE has been scrutinized by the Worlds largest retailer and their army of lawyers and it has been sitting on their shelfs for about a year now. Furthermore, the Worlds largest nutrition retailer, one that holds products up to a higher standard than any retailer could, also has seen fit to place our product on their shelves.

                  We have been commended in the courts on our warning label, contrary to what many believe is a signal of our admission of its danger. VPX as well as many others in the FDA, Courts, FTC, etc believe that ALL energy drinks should have a warning label on them as well as an age restriction statement.
                  I hear cases everyday about kids downing NyQuil for a buzz, Huffing household cleaners, doing whippets with Whipped cream cans, etc. The bottom line is that REDLINE is no more potentially dangerous than a lot of products currently on the market.
                  The end result is that Americans need to take personal responsibilty for themselves and not make assumptions about products.
                  We place a more than adequate warning label on our product to let consumers know of its intensity. It is the consumers responsibility to educate himself about a product before ingesting it if he or she has never used the product before, does that not make sense? Furthermore, Does not paying alomost 2 time the normal price for an 8oz energy drink send up any signals about what you are getting?

                  About people calling poison control I would like to point out that 4 of the people that called stated they used a POWDERED concentrated version of REDLINE. We have never produced a powdered version of REDLINE so those numbers may be skewed just a bit.
                  Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

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                  • #10
                    Rockstar, Monster and Redbull all clearly state on the side of their cans "not recommended for children" In California, a child is anyone under 18 years of age. But every day, thousands of "children" in California are guzzling down 24oz Rockstars or Monsters or grabbing 2 or 3 Red Bulls to get a buzz. At least Redline and other drinks in that category are labeling exactly who their product is for. Out here in California, 7-11 stores are not allowed to sell Redline to anyone under 18. Why doesn't the same thing apply to all the other ED's who have bascially the same warning on the can. If that happend, Monster, Rockstar and Red Bull would see their sales drop at least 30 to 40% Teenagers are a big part of ED's core business. I would rather have a 17 year old drink 1/2 a Redline than guzzling down a 24oz Rockstar or Monster. All that HFCS and cheap raw ingredients just to get a buzz......please!

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                    • #11
                      greg as i said in the past, i believe the product is perfect for the lifestyle ie. working out and intense physical activity ie. construction.I personally enjoy the product in 8 oz and buy it by the case and average just one a day and i might add that it is " THE MOST POWERFUL ENERGY DRINK " I have ever taken in the past four years. I am 6 foot about 210 lbs and i feel the freak and the adrenaline boost min after drinking it. i take it in the morn about 6:00am before i am about to pick up 40,000 lbs of garbage or after my route which is usually 4 hours later during my workout at the gym. ***The only thing i do regret is taking it without anything in my stomach " LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS BE ANOTHER BURRITO SCENARIO" so i will correct that the next time i take a chug!!
                      But overall i have to say that we as the suppliers of these products must EDUCATE these perspective consumers. MORE IMPORTANTLY must put these warning labels right in front of there faces, clear as can be because if you do not stress the concern than how does a consumer know !! Don't get me wrong there are those exceptions like the kid thats on medication 19 years old that heard from his friend about REDLINE and enjoys one but doesnt realize the 250mg caffeine content mixed with his heart medication doesn't mix well and we can go on, on...... IF ALL OF US AMERICANS CAN DRINK & EAT IN MODERATION THAN WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE OVERWHELMING OBESITY FACTOR & COUNTLESS INCIDENTS IN THE ED INDUSTRY!! LASTLY WE ALL KNOW IT BOILS DOWN TO COMMON SENSE AND WE TRULY DON'T WANT TO GO THERE !!

                      CLIMAX
                      Lenny

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                      • #12
                        Climax,
                        I see your point but how far does the manufacturer have to go to educate the masses. Should I have to stand at the cooler door and every time someone grabs my drink have to give him a dissertation about the product?
                        Labels are for two things: Tell the consumer what your product is and tell them what it is for or about.REDLINE does that explicitly. We do not try and hide anything from the consumer. As a matter of fact we OUTLINE the warning label to set off from other information.
                        Is there a warning label on the windshield of a car about the use of safety belts? No , it is on the underside of the visor. It is not right beside the moniker on the fender.
                        Manufactures do have a responsibilty to warn their consumers of potential adverse reactions and we feel, and as I stated so have courts, that we have more than aedquately given the consumer the information he needs to make a decesion about the use of our product. Whether or not that consumer heeds the information is their responsibilty.

                        One more thing that REDLINE does that I am pretty sure no other ED does. It is part of our Distributor contract that REDLINE is not to be used or sold to establishments that sell alcohol by the drink, that icludes bars, taverns, saloons, etc. We do not promote mixing REDLINE with alcohol. We are one of the only companies I know that expressly makes this point. Does anyother ED manufacturer make this same claim?

                        So for those that think VPX Sports is a rogue manufacturer that has set out to sell a high intensity energy drink with no regard for the consumer I beg you to think again.

                        post script- If someone who is taking heart medicine does not realize that he should not be taking any product that may contain stimulants then that is his and his Doctors fault. Seriously! I don't take anything for my heart and I know that if I did take a product that may boost heart rate or provide energy I should stay away from it.
                        Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

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                        • #13
                          greg i absolutely agree with you !! we all can learn from an experienced professional !! YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT PEOPLE DO !! i ofcourse wasn't bashing the REDLINE product but it is consumers that have no common sense and abuse any or every product that put them in a horrid predicament and than return blame the supplier and the media gets hold of it and it gets put on a BEVERAGE INDUSTRY POST etc... !! I do respect the fact that you don't sell to establishments that sell alcohol i agree it can be harmful to I REITERATE YOUNG ADULTS ... THAT WAS WHY I ULTIMATELY STOPPED SELLING COCAINE ED BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIG DEMAND FOR IT IN THE NIGHTCLUBS AND BARS AND I SAID I AM NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS ON MY CONSCIUOS AND ULTIMATELY IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !!!

                          CLIMAX
                          Lenny

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                          • #14
                            Climax,
                            I didn't take it as you bashing the product. You didn't come across that way at all. No harm , No Foul.

                            After I wrote that post about warning labels it dawned on me about the psyche of the consumer. Cigarettes have labels that pretty much say that you will get cancer if you smoke as well as may have heart problems yet the tobacco industry still generates billions in sales every year. If thats not making a statement about consumers attitudes of risk and behavior I don't know what is.
                            Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by greg:
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                              The end result is that Americans need to take personal responsibilty for themselves and not make assumptions about products.

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