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  • greg
    started a topic REDLINE

    REDLINE



    [ 02-16-2007, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: greg ]

  • scum1
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    Grape

    Finally found me a grape today at GNC! Really I'm wanting to try the apple the most though. I been seeing 4 pack of original redline at Walmart for a while now.

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  • fusion
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    I saw Redline in the back room of a Wal-Mart yesterday.

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  • deepnenergy
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    Originally posted by greg View Post
    The government is already knee deep in our personal lives. We need to take personal responibility for our own lives.
    The government will have all drink makers put the caffeine content on the labels next year of every drink made,supplement or not. Perhaps then we will move forward to having to teach people to read before they buy ED's because the manufacturer is to irresponsible to insure that its potential consume can read.
    Catman, are we not all saying the same thing, it's got to be saying something??? I do agree with you Catman but who will???

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  • greg
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    Originally posted by CStoreCatMan View Post
    We're not saying that at all. What we're saying is that even though the calls to poison control are limited (right now) the government will not ignore the issue if the calls continue. I think as stronger and stronger drinks come out, and are made available in mainstream channels of business, it is the industry itself that will attract the government's spotlight. Unfortunately, it is my opinion that these "extreme" energy drinks will be the ones that push the issue over the edge and force government involvement. It's going to happen, its just a matter of when.
    The government is already knee deep in our personal lives. We need to take personal responibility for our own lives.
    The government will have all drink makers put the caffeine content on the labels next year of every drink made,supplement or not. Perhaps then we will move forward to having to teach people to read before they buy ED's because the manufacturer is to irresponsible to insure that its potential consume can read.

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  • greg
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    Originally posted by SumPoosieCat View Post
    I understand what many of you are saying but I think most of you are depending on minors to make these decisions. I do not think a 14 year old should be able to walk in and buy a couple of "Extreme" drinks and walk out the door. I think the company and the distributor need to place these type of products in health and fitness areas like gyms or GNC where it can be monitored. Placing these products in a convenience store seems a little reckless to me.
    We don't want minors purchasing our drinks. That is why we put an 18 and over label on it.
    As far as minors making decisions in life we trust them everytime we put a hyper testosterone laden 16 yr old in a 3000lb vehicle and let him drive himself and his frineds to school, or go out friday night, or to church on Sunday. That is a huge responsibility to me. We also place trust in our minors when we let them sit behind a computer screen for 3 hours after school with no adult supervision to do the right thing.
    Since we are talking about decisions what about the decisions we let kids-10-18 decide about their diet. Mcdonlads for breakfast with a soda, a crappy school lunch and another sugary drink plus a candy bar after school is irresponsible in my book. Do you really think they are making wise decisions when it comes to their diet. After all McDonalds does not put a warning sign on their food as being a high in saturated fat. Coke does not give warnings about their high Sugar content in their sodas.
    Does SPC have a warning on the label concerning the sugar content in the product and how consistent use can cause potential adverse health effects?
    REDLINE does have a warning as an age restriction as well as a potency claim.

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  • greg
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    Thanks Deep and Climax.
    We will be giving it away at The NACS. The Arnold Sports Classic is a consumer driven show while the NACS is more industry. I don't take 1/4 of product to the NACS as I do to the AC. The buyers at the NACS can try it but most want me to send a case to the office for research/samples/etc.

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  • climaxenergydrink
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    Redline !

    Everybody, i am positive greg knows what he has to do !! At least he is making an extraordinary effort to put it ( A WARNING LABEL- SIGN) noticeable on the Cap for the perspective consumer !! I know for a fact the last thing any proprietor or investor would like to see is someone have a harmful effect from there product !! I don't know about you but i have heard one incident " The Buritto " with REDLINE ed in all these years !! Greg how many bottles have you sold up to this point ? i am sure you are in the millions !! THATS PRETTY DAMN GOOD IF YOU ASKED ME !!

    *GOOD LUCK AND MAY NEXT TIME YOU SELL 100K BOTTLES IN 2 1/2 DAYS !!
    hey u never know NACS IS CREEPING UP ON US !!

    CLIMAX
    Lenny

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  • deepnenergy
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    Maybe the American Soft Drink Manufacturers Association can come and help...LOL. No really, it is the end sellers duty to safe guard their customers like selling cigarettes, beer, and so on. Yes, Greg I do agree with you and looking over you package carefully I do clearly see the warning and the very clear age restriction on the 4pks, that my 14 year old noticed as I was carrying them into the room from almost 10 feet away.

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  • SumPoosieCat
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    That's nice....but !

    I think you are skating on very think ice. The problem I see is that your company is now acknowledging that it could pose a problem for teenagers and needs to be closely monitored. The problem becomes this... are your distributors going to be as careful and are they going to require C stores to ID customers?

    If a 14 year old buys a couple of cans and has a heart attack can they come back to you and say, "Hey you knew how dangerous this stuff was why are you selling in C stores where children have easy access?"

    Relax... just playing the devil on this one.

    IMO an energy drink is a beverage and can be consumed as one safely.

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  • greg
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    Originally posted by SumPoosieCat View Post
    I understand what many of you are saying but I think most of you are depending on minors to make these decisions. I do not think a 14 year old should be able to walk in and buy a couple of "Extreme" drinks and walk out the door. I think the company and the distributor need to place these type of products in health and fitness areas like gyms or GNC where it can be monitored. Placing these products in a convenience store seems a little reckless to me.
    I have been out of town on business so it that is the reason for my lack of responses.

    We are AGAIN going to lead the industry in being responsible with our product. We do not want to make our living by selling energy drinks to kids. We want adults to use our products. We are going to print on the cap that the product is to be used by adults(not minors) and that it is very potent and has 2 servings in the bottle.
    As a matter of fact, this past weekend REDLINE was at the Arnold Sports Fitness weekend in Columbus Ohio and we were selling energy drinks. YES, SELLING! We do not have to give our product away to sell over 10 skids of product in 2 and a half days. That amounts to 980 cases or 23,520 units of REDLINE. Of all the companies with Energy drinks in the Exposition VPX SPORTS/REDLINE WAS THE ONLY MANUFACTURER CARDING PEOPLE TO BUY A DRINK!

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  • Coco Rico
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    I agree with you CatMan. No one wants the government to step in. However, fringe "extreme" energy drinks might force their hand.

    CR.

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  • CStoreCatMan
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    We're not saying that at all. What we're saying is that even though the calls to poison control are limited (right now) the government will not ignore the issue if the calls continue. I think as stronger and stronger drinks come out, and are made available in mainstream channels of business, it is the industry itself that will attract the government's spotlight. Unfortunately, it is my opinion that these "extreme" energy drinks will be the ones that push the issue over the edge and force government involvement. It's going to happen, its just a matter of when.

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  • NRGSLLR@
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    The Danger lies in the fact that you are asking the government to regulate our businsess. I don't think any of us would want that to happen.

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  • Coco Rico
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    Originally posted by greg View Post
    I don't understand the statement about peopole buying things in a c-store that is unsafe. I see alcohol, cigarettes, rolling papers, knives, etc in there.
    All of this are potentially unsafe. All of the above mentioned items reuire the consumer to use some osrt of personal responsobility to insure safety. I do not see a warning on a bottle of beer that states you should only drink half to assess tolerance, nor do I see warning on a knife that says do not run, poke at, stab at, etc towards another person.
    Greg,

    The problem is that all the items you just mentioned are government regulated and require a minimum age to purchase. 18 for cigarettes (and in most state rolling papers), 21 for liquor/beer, and 16 (in most states) to purchase an edged weapon.

    My point is all those items are potentially dangerous, require personal responsibility to ensure safety, and have been targeted by the government to put minimum age restrictions for purchase... I could see a drink like yours requiring that by the government.

    Thanks,

    Juan

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