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  • #31
    1.I agree with you that Energy Drinks are all about the Energy, however, as many wil attest on this board as well as the marketplace, Flavor has its place on the energy shelf. See Monster, RockStar, Redline, and others that have gained market share dur to their flavor selection.

    2. Innovation- Stop beliveing your own hype and give me concrete details of how "innovative" yor drink is.
    your quote "We believe it is not a new ingredient or package that makes Rage Innovative; it is the fact that we formulated a superior Beverage to offer an EB that brings all into one can."
    This begs the question- how did you formulate a superior beverage with the same ingredients but at higher values yet make it onnovative? How is this "nothing done before or experienced" or " so original" by definition of innovative? (a definition that you gave)

    3. The year the page was written was 2-3 years ago. I have not found any information to counter the contents of this argument so I stand behind the information. Furthermore, you have not provided any information to counter the information. I thought you were defending your position.

    4.I will give you credit for your cut/paste/edit on the creatine supplementation and its uses in the body, however, if you read the articles in their entirety you wili realize that a "load" phase must take place with any creatine uptake in order to truly full fill the bodies need to use Creatine Phosphate as a mechanism to re-synthesize or replenish the adenosine triphosphate, or ATP that is the "energy" you so desire.
    Being that creatine is Hydrophyllic any water it comes into contct with "turns it on" so to speak. The creatine if not used immediately will turn into creatinine; Useless in the body.

    I know you think I am arguing with you but the truth is that when someone makes blanket statements about their product and how innovative it is I ask them to prove it. Just saying so doesn't make it so.
    Whether you think can or think you can\'t, you\'re probably right!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by greg View Post
      1.I agree with you that Energy Drinks are all about the Energy, however, as many wil attest on this board as well as the marketplace, Flavor has its place on the energy shelf. See Monster, RockStar, Redline, and others that have gained market share dur to their flavor selection.

      2. Innovation- Stop beliveing your own hype and give me concrete details of how "innovative" yor drink is.
      your quote "We believe it is not a new ingredient or package that makes Rage Innovative; it is the fact that we formulated a superior Beverage to offer an EB that brings all into one can."
      This begs the question- how did you formulate a superior beverage with the same ingredients but at higher values yet make it onnovative? How is this "nothing done before or experienced" or " so original" by definition of innovative? (a definition that you gave)

      3. The year the page was written was 2-3 years ago. I have not found any information to counter the contents of this argument so I stand behind the information. Furthermore, you have not provided any information to counter the information. I thought you were defending your position.

      4.I will give you credit for your cut/paste/edit on the creatine supplementation and its uses in the body, however, if you read the articles in their entirety you wili realize that a "load" phase must take place with any creatine uptake in order to truly full fill the bodies need to use Creatine Phosphate as a mechanism to re-synthesize or replenish the adenosine triphosphate, or ATP that is the "energy" you so desire.
      Being that creatine is Hydrophyllic any water it comes into contct with "turns it on" so to speak. The creatine if not used immediately will turn into creatinine; Useless in the body.

      I know you think I am arguing with you but the truth is that when someone makes blanket statements about their product and how innovative it is I ask them to prove it. Just saying so doesn't make it so.
      <Greg>>This begs the question- how did you formulates a superior beverage with the same ingredients but at higher values yet makes it innovative?

      Not just higher values but combining all the values together to produce an all in one energy beverage. You may not think that suits props, but your not the one choosing Rage. The simple fact Rage can offer a product that supplies the amount of energy over the rest, in turn saving customers money, to me that speaks new innovative when compared to most brands that play follow the leader. I guess getting it all in one package would not be new to you? you have that sitting in you house? or you have had it before? It may not be new to you but it is to all the people I have given samples too and that are now buying Rage over what they spent their money before including one name not mentioned.


      <<Greg>>I have not found any information to counter the contents of this argument so I stand behind the information. Furthermore, you have not provided any information to counter the information.

      I will start by saying over the past few years there has been break through with different types but that is all you get and you can research it out for your self...but the info is out there. Then you make a statement like that and then say you are not trying to argue in the same text? Then not try and defend the questions given to you but to say, "it is safe like any other product if used as directed" IMO...well LMAO... guess you put the cart before the horse on that one.
      CJ <br />Business relations

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      • #33
        I saw a shelf tag today for sugarfree Amp.. can anyone confirm that?

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        • #34
          I saw a drink called Deep Throat energy. Just a novelty ED but funny just the same!

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          • #35
            Deepenergy
            One upping leading brands does not qualify for being innovative. You may have a great energy drink, but that doesn't qualify as being differant or innovative in any way. I hate to brake it to you but Greg is right about the creatine as well. Besides the fact it only has 50mg (which isn't enough to do anything), that 50mg is turned into a useless creatine by product (creatnine) within hours of being bottled. I wish you all the success in the world, but I don't think people will find your product innovative or differant from the others. This doesn't mean that I don't think your drink will be successful. I just don't see it as being any differant from any other drink in the category. Best of luck

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            • #36
              It just occured to me that 10 years after the Red Bull launch in the US, companies are still trying to capitalize on that same ingredient profile (for the most part). The fact is times have changed and there are so many more effective compounds on the market then there was back then. With that being said, I think it would be in the best interest for anyone entering the market to do extensive research on not just your market and demographics, but on whats inside the drink you're selling. I personally find many of the ingredients found in most energy drinks to be useless (even at high doses). It's usually a select few ingredients that you're feeling. So why not do a little more research (or hire a biochemist) and bring something unique to the market? This isn't directed at you specifically Deepenergy. Just my opinion on the subject.

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              • #37
                Hype just released their updated light product, now in a pink can and called "Enlite". Looks so pretty. I'm getting samples sent to me as we speak, hopefully I love it.

                check it out at Hype Energy Drinks

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                • #38
                  I saw a drink in NY called Fuego! tasted good, and it glew in the dark. lol

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                  • #39
                    yes we got pimp juice the purple label is awesome try it rate it 5 stars and comment it

                    it does not test on animals so make it # 1

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by fusion View Post
                      I saw a shelf tag today for sugarfree Amp.. can anyone confirm that?
                      Yes, I can confirm this. Saw it in a Pepsi Machine, there is also another Sugar Free product they added to their line-up.

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                      • #41
                        sweet!

                        Damn and I just bought a 4 pack of regular amp.
                        banned

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                        • #42
                          Sugar Free Amp should be out everywhere soon - also look for 5-6 new flavors in 2008
                          Vault Sucks, Do The Dew

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                          • #43
                            5-6, nice addition to the amp line
                            I'm an acquired taste, if you don't like me acquire some taste

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                            • #44
                              Well.. SumPoosie Cat Energy Drink has been around since 2001 but the bottle is back and the packaging and design is still like no other. After we roll out the 2008 Edition look for us to come out with a brand new energy drink that will again stretch the limits of packaging and design.

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                              • #45
                                Monster is also going to be releasing some new coffee drinks: a version of Irish coffee, and their take on a white Russian.

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