What defines compelling innovation? Novel ingredients? Esoteric flavors? Unusual packaging? The hosts discussed how strategic and entrepreneurial companies are attempting to innovate in food and beverage and what’s moving the needle for consumers. They also riffed on two new celebrity coffee brands, one launched by a “Yellowstone'' star and the other known for her status as a “teen mom.”

Bill Shufelt and John Walker, the co-founders of flourishing non-alcoholic beer brand Athletic Brewing, spoke about the company’s role in the evolution of alcohol-alternative beverages and its influence on how consumers perceive them, why it’s in the company’s interest to support competitors, and how they evaluate new retail and distribution opportunities.

From allulose-sweetened gummies and “junkless” granola bars to zero-sugar sodas and “WonderWater,” the hosts discussed how better-for-you brands are attempting to meet consumer demand for great taste and nutrition in snacks and beverages.

Bronya Shillo, the founder of pioneering RTD cocktail brand Fishers Island Lemonade, spoke about why quality of ingredients matters when meeting with retail buyers, how the adage “inch wide, mile deep” guided the brand’s distribution strategy for years and how she built and maintained a relationship with leadership executives at E. & J. Gallo, which acquired her company in May.